Runway expansion could create 1000 new jobs at Southampton International Airport

Southampton Airport

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First published in Hampshire Business Andover Advertiser: Photograph of the Author by , Eastleigh Chief Reporter

UP to a thousand new jobs could be created amid major plans to lengthen Southampton Airport’s runway by 450ft, the Daily Echo can reveal.

The £5m upgrade would enable passengers to travel even further afield to destinations such as Greece, southern Italy, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia.

If the vision got the go-ahead and funding secured the “starter strip” at the northern end of the 1,700m runway could be in place in just five years time.

Passenger numbers are expected to climb from 1.7 million to 2.5 million a year over the next decade and airport bosses say their workforce will need to go up from a thousand to 2,000 to help cater for the demand.

Although there would be no increase in the size of aircraft using the historic airfield the new 150 metre addition to the runway would enable planes to take off carrying a heavier load of fuel, meaning longer flights.

The move has already split opinion, with one residents’ group fearing extra services will have an impact on those living under the flight path. Business leaders have hailed it as a “very positive move forward”.

Airport managing director David Lees said the proposals could mean opening up routes to nations as far afield as Romania and Poland – especially in light of the large Eastern European population in and around Southampton and Portsmouth.

The move could inject an extra £50 million into the local economy.

But Mary Finch, from Bitterne Park Residents’ Association, said she had only been told that the starter strip was to make taking off and landing safer at the terminal and questioned whether extending the runway was permitted.

She said the impact on residents would “not be good”, adding: “Obviously this would mean there would be more aircraft. It has been very good and the number of complaints has come right down. But, as I said, I was told the starter strip was to make it all safer.”

Mr Lees said it would also mean direct flights to southern Italy – currently it is only possible to fly direct to Verona in the north of the country.

Passengers would also be able to take a four-hour flight to Greece if the runway is lengthened, while it would also open the door to flights to Scandinavia.

It comes as the airport unveiled a five per cent increase in passenger numbers in February, when more than 105,805 passengers passed through the terminal in just 28 days. Massive growth is expected in coming years, with Southampton’s cruise industry blossoming and with the airport’s fast rail links to London.

Mr Lees told the Daily Echo: “We are talking about a starter strip adding up to 150 metres to the existing runway, which is currently just over 1,700 metres, so it would be under ten per cent longer. We would like to see this in the next ten years and before a major new runway is built elsewhere in the south east. I would anticipate this could be within five to ten years.

Reputation “We are currently operating at 1.7 million passengers a year and we are having a successful year. Over the course of the next ten years that should grow to at least 2.5 million passengers.

“At the moment the airport contributes £100 million to the local economy – this plan should, over a period of time, take that figure towards £150 million.

“This is really something to look forward to. We have gained a great reputation as a leader in service and have just had our largest ski season.

“There is some really positive news emerging and it all helps the future prosperity of the region.”

Mr Lees said the investment would not mean extra costs for passengers and that there would be no change to restrictions on what times of the day aircraft are allowed to take off and land at the airport.

But any proposal would depend on the market maintaining its strength, funding being in place and Eastleigh Borough Council giving planning consent.

The proposals came to light as Mr Lees was answering questions at an Airport Consultative Committee on what impact the current Independent Airports Commission may have on Southampton Airport.

The review, led by Sir Howard Davies, is exploring the future need to cater for increased airport capacity in the south east.

Council leader Keith House said any proposal for an extension would need to be considered “carefully”.

“This could be fantastic news for business and for all travellers wishing to avoid a trek to London for flights to southern Europe and Scandinavia and potentially further afield,” he said.

“We will have to consider planning issues carefully but our airport has a good record on reducing noise and with the local community.”

Hampshire Chamber of Commerce chief executive Stewart Dunn said that while there were concerns for people living under flight paths huge strides had been made in noise and pollution reduction in recent years.

“We have always said the airport will play a vital role in the future development of the economy here,” he said. “This will bring extra jobs, which is a boost to the economy, and will bring extra routes and destinations, which will help businesses and tourism.

“Obviously it won’t be one thousand jobs all at once but it will be welcomed to replace some of the jobs lost at Ford in Southampton and BAE in Portsmouth, which also affected this city.

“This is a very positive move forward for the area.”

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6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14

derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep derek james
  • Score: -15

7:16am Thu 13 Mar 14

Mr E says...

don't mess around. Make the runway long enough for intercontinental flights.
don't mess around. Make the runway long enough for intercontinental flights. Mr E
  • Score: 61

7:40am Thu 13 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

Excellent news, they should have done this years ago.
If they don't do something positive to encourage other operators to Southampton airport they will end up renaming it to 'Flybe international airport' & they will end up losing trade to to Hurn because 'Flybe' are way too expensive.
Excellent news, they should have done this years ago. If they don't do something positive to encourage other operators to Southampton airport they will end up renaming it to 'Flybe international airport' & they will end up losing trade to to Hurn because 'Flybe' are way too expensive. SOULJACKER
  • Score: 39

7:41am Thu 13 Mar 14

loosehead says...

I have already shown a way to turn the runway around & get international flights.
But before people slag this expansion off they should think! Can this area solely rely on Southampton Docks for work or companies using the docks to ship goods & if no dock they'd go?
If this runway expansion brings more jobs shouldn't that be a good thing?
I live in Lordshill & we constantly get planes over head I have a friend on the waterside she gets planes overhead but both of us would welcome more jobs so will put up with the planes
I have already shown a way to turn the runway around & get international flights. But before people slag this expansion off they should think! Can this area solely rely on Southampton Docks for work or companies using the docks to ship goods & if no dock they'd go? If this runway expansion brings more jobs shouldn't that be a good thing? I live in Lordshill & we constantly get planes over head I have a friend on the waterside she gets planes overhead but both of us would welcome more jobs so will put up with the planes loosehead
  • Score: 39

7:44am Thu 13 Mar 14

get on with life says...

6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ! get on with life
  • Score: -33

7:50am Thu 13 Mar 14

Micle1974 says...

Maybe these people moaning should go and live underneath gatwick or heathrow for a few days.
You get used to it after a while and don't even notice them there....the planes at Southampton aren't exactly big anyway are they?!?
Expand it or close it.
Maybe these people moaning should go and live underneath gatwick or heathrow for a few days. You get used to it after a while and don't even notice them there....the planes at Southampton aren't exactly big anyway are they?!? Expand it or close it. Micle1974
  • Score: 14

7:59am Thu 13 Mar 14

motorizer says...

get on with life wrote:
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
No , he is quite right..... Dont buy a house near an airport if you don't like the noise.... These people are total planks.

Lets have bigger planes and more destinations so we don't have to endure the heathrow/gatwick nausea when we want to travel....
[quote][p][bold]get on with life[/bold] wrote: 6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ![/p][/quote]No , he is quite right..... Dont buy a house near an airport if you don't like the noise.... These people are total planks. Lets have bigger planes and more destinations so we don't have to endure the heathrow/gatwick nausea when we want to travel.... motorizer
  • Score: 15

8:04am Thu 13 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 23

8:09am Thu 13 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
Get them old Spanish MD83's in again now they were fun to see land & take off.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]Get them old Spanish MD83's in again now they were fun to see land & take off. SOULJACKER
  • Score: 6

8:18am Thu 13 Mar 14

AnnaSouthampton says...

As a local resident I'm all for this! Brings more money into the economy, and should hopefully provide jobs to locals that have felt the loss of Ford closing... My only concern is the road network! I hope the council finally sort out the bottleneck by the new MSCP and put a slip road onto the Eastbound M27 to cope with the additional traffic.
As a local resident I'm all for this! Brings more money into the economy, and should hopefully provide jobs to locals that have felt the loss of Ford closing... My only concern is the road network! I hope the council finally sort out the bottleneck by the new MSCP and put a slip road onto the Eastbound M27 to cope with the additional traffic. AnnaSouthampton
  • Score: 21

8:43am Thu 13 Mar 14

Kingontail says...

actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant
actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant Kingontail
  • Score: 16

8:49am Thu 13 Mar 14

wwozzer says...

I'm all for it, Nothing worse than enduring a one or two hour drive up the M3 to a London airport only to fly back down it in minutes.

However, there's definitely more "up to".... "could" ....and... "should" than a DFS sale poster coming from Mr Lees direction where numbers are concerned.

One thing that "definitely" is "guaranteed" and "would" happen is total gridlock unless they sort out the road infrastructure first.
I'm all for it, Nothing worse than enduring a one or two hour drive up the M3 to a London airport only to fly back down it in minutes. However, there's definitely more "up to".... "could" ....and... "should" than a DFS sale poster coming from Mr Lees direction where numbers are concerned. One thing that "definitely" is "guaranteed" and "would" happen is total gridlock unless they sort out the road infrastructure first. wwozzer
  • Score: 22

8:51am Thu 13 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Kingontail wrote:
actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant
Now is the time to extend over the top of the motorway,and utilise the old Ford site.
[quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant[/p][/quote]Now is the time to extend over the top of the motorway,and utilise the old Ford site. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 15

9:00am Thu 13 Mar 14

Andy Lombardi says...

I would presume that all the safety implications have been fully considered? That aircraft can safely negotiate the railway sidings and Campbell Rd housing? Airports will always, for the foreseeable future, be expanding their passenger footfall so they will also be looking to expand physically. Should this bring extra prosperity to an already weak job market in the area then it should be welcomed. However, at some stage, the airport will reach a maximum capacity to which it can expand to. It's always been deemed that there is no room for another runway, being bounded by the road to the West and the marshy Itchen land to the East. What then?
I would presume that all the safety implications have been fully considered? That aircraft can safely negotiate the railway sidings and Campbell Rd housing? Airports will always, for the foreseeable future, be expanding their passenger footfall so they will also be looking to expand physically. Should this bring extra prosperity to an already weak job market in the area then it should be welcomed. However, at some stage, the airport will reach a maximum capacity to which it can expand to. It's always been deemed that there is no room for another runway, being bounded by the road to the West and the marshy Itchen land to the East. What then? Andy Lombardi
  • Score: 2

9:43am Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

get on with life wrote:
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you?

As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]get on with life[/bold] wrote: 6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ![/p][/quote]Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you? As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 12

9:59am Thu 13 Mar 14

alan.of.eastleigh says...

Actually for all the comments above, if you read the article again, there are no NIMBY objections. Just people in flight path concerned to understand the impact on them which is their right. But yes overall good for the area.

I think the main constraint is actually not the length of the runway but the reliability of flights. They seem to cancel them at the drop of a hat citing mist from the river itchen although the cynics might suggest they simply have not sold enough seats. A couple of times I have been diverted onto other flights which defeats the object of trying to avoid London airports. 1.7 million passengers a year is a pretty poor show to be honest and would rather see us trying compete with Luton or Bristol as a regional airport.
Actually for all the comments above, if you read the article again, there are no NIMBY objections. Just people in flight path concerned to understand the impact on them which is their right. But yes overall good for the area. I think the main constraint is actually not the length of the runway but the reliability of flights. They seem to cancel them at the drop of a hat citing mist from the river itchen although the cynics might suggest they simply have not sold enough seats. A couple of times I have been diverted onto other flights which defeats the object of trying to avoid London airports. 1.7 million passengers a year is a pretty poor show to be honest and would rather see us trying compete with Luton or Bristol as a regional airport. alan.of.eastleigh
  • Score: 6

10:26am Thu 13 Mar 14

Tony in Liberia says...

derek james wrote:
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ...

My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started.

My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ...

My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse..

When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise.

Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep[/p][/quote]Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ... My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started. My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ... My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse.. When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise. Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase. Tony in Liberia
  • Score: 15

10:34am Thu 13 Mar 14

Norwegian Saint says...

I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice!
I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 9

10:50am Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The "new" jobs argument is a bit nebulous, Flybe have been getting rid of employees and reducing their fleet of aircraft, even talk of using turboprops only. Perhaps a new operator or two could improve things but a runway improvement on its own, will not. As an Airport it generally has a good reputation for moving passengers through it, but Public Relations are not a strong point, my biggest grump is the lack of anywhere to go and watch the operations, there is nowhere to wave friends and family off, nowhere to photograph or watch the aircraft, it would take much effort to create a suitable observation deck, it might even encourage people to get to like the airport and its aircraft if the could see and understand what goes on. If Hurn had a direct railway connection or even a Motorway connection it would have taken over most flights a long time ago!
The "new" jobs argument is a bit nebulous, Flybe have been getting rid of employees and reducing their fleet of aircraft, even talk of using turboprops only. Perhaps a new operator or two could improve things but a runway improvement on its own, will not. As an Airport it generally has a good reputation for moving passengers through it, but Public Relations are not a strong point, my biggest grump is the lack of anywhere to go and watch the operations, there is nowhere to wave friends and family off, nowhere to photograph or watch the aircraft, it would take much effort to create a suitable observation deck, it might even encourage people to get to like the airport and its aircraft if the could see and understand what goes on. If Hurn had a direct railway connection or even a Motorway connection it would have taken over most flights a long time ago! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

10:51am Thu 13 Mar 14

Redflag14 says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice!
Couldn't afjord it!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice![/p][/quote]Couldn't afjord it! Redflag14
  • Score: 4

10:53am Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The "new" jobs argument is a bit nebulous, Flybe have been getting rid of employees and reducing their fleet of aircraft, even talk of using turboprops only. Perhaps a new operator or two could improve things but a runway improvement on its own, will not. As an Airport it generally has a good reputation for moving passengers through it, but Public Relations are not a strong point, my biggest grump is the lack of anywhere to go and watch the operations, there is nowhere to wave friends and family off, nowhere to photograph or watch the aircraft, it would take much effort to create a suitable observation deck, it might even encourage people to get to like the airport and its aircraft if the could see and understand what goes on. If Hurn had a direct railway connection or even a Motorway connection it would have taken over most flights a long time ago!
Should have read "it wouldn't take much effort"
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The "new" jobs argument is a bit nebulous, Flybe have been getting rid of employees and reducing their fleet of aircraft, even talk of using turboprops only. Perhaps a new operator or two could improve things but a runway improvement on its own, will not. As an Airport it generally has a good reputation for moving passengers through it, but Public Relations are not a strong point, my biggest grump is the lack of anywhere to go and watch the operations, there is nowhere to wave friends and family off, nowhere to photograph or watch the aircraft, it would take much effort to create a suitable observation deck, it might even encourage people to get to like the airport and its aircraft if the could see and understand what goes on. If Hurn had a direct railway connection or even a Motorway connection it would have taken over most flights a long time ago![/p][/quote]Should have read "it wouldn't take much effort" OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:55am Thu 13 Mar 14

phil maccavity says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice!
Actually Liverpool Airport (previously Speke, now John Lennon International) also benefitted significantly from substantial EC Grant Funding to provide for expansion.
Interesting that the owners at the time were the Whittaker family who also own Liverpool Port and benefit most from cruise ship revenue.
After the EC grant helped improve Liverpool Airport, the family sold a controlling interest to a Canadian company!!
The chances of Soton Airport getting any external assistance to expand is very slim. Suggest it is up to the community at large to lobby local and Central Govt politicians for improved road connections to the airport if the planned expansion is privately funded
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice![/p][/quote]Actually Liverpool Airport (previously Speke, now John Lennon International) also benefitted significantly from substantial EC Grant Funding to provide for expansion. Interesting that the owners at the time were the Whittaker family who also own Liverpool Port and benefit most from cruise ship revenue. After the EC grant helped improve Liverpool Airport, the family sold a controlling interest to a Canadian company!! The chances of Soton Airport getting any external assistance to expand is very slim. Suggest it is up to the community at large to lobby local and Central Govt politicians for improved road connections to the airport if the planned expansion is privately funded phil maccavity
  • Score: 2

10:58am Thu 13 Mar 14

Redflag14 says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
derek james wrote:
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ...

My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started.

My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ...

My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse..

When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise.

Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.
Having a different opinion doesnt qualify someone as being a plank, and when was that ever a swear word that had to be encrypted?
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep[/p][/quote]Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ... My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started. My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ... My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse.. When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise. Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.[/p][/quote]Having a different opinion doesnt qualify someone as being a plank, and when was that ever a swear word that had to be encrypted? Redflag14
  • Score: -3

11:07am Thu 13 Mar 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Absolutely great news.
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As a regular flier from the airport the additional routes would certainly be of great benefit to holiday and business travel alike.
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And if it really does bring in potetntially 1000 new jobs its a win win situation
Absolutely great news. . As a regular flier from the airport the additional routes would certainly be of great benefit to holiday and business travel alike. . And if it really does bring in potetntially 1000 new jobs its a win win situation Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 3

11:15am Thu 13 Mar 14

S!monOn says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
derek james wrote:
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ...

My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started.

My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ...

My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse..

When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise.

Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.
I can understand your parent's position, but i don't think people's comments (not mine) on here were aimed at just them.

As the saying goes - free country, free speak. Or are you and your brothers going to forcefully change that too?
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep[/p][/quote]Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ... My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started. My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ... My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse.. When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise. Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.[/p][/quote]I can understand your parent's position, but i don't think people's comments (not mine) on here were aimed at just them. As the saying goes - free country, free speak. Or are you and your brothers going to forcefully change that too? S!monOn
  • Score: -5

11:22am Thu 13 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Kingontail wrote:
actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant
Now is the time to extend over the top of the motorway,and utilise the old Ford site.
My brother is now dead but he Lived in Darwin Road Eastleigh & he said why not turn the runway knock down all ford buildings do a Heathrow & put the road under the runway & head it SW onto the fields at the bottom of his road.
I was shocked but he was all for jobs for this generation & the next & he could see what a great way this could be for job creation especially with a railway line/station right there
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant[/p][/quote]Now is the time to extend over the top of the motorway,and utilise the old Ford site.[/p][/quote]My brother is now dead but he Lived in Darwin Road Eastleigh & he said why not turn the runway knock down all ford buildings do a Heathrow & put the road under the runway & head it SW onto the fields at the bottom of his road. I was shocked but he was all for jobs for this generation & the next & he could see what a great way this could be for job creation especially with a railway line/station right there loosehead
  • Score: 5

11:56am Thu 13 Mar 14

mickey01 says...

i hope it takes off
i hope it takes off mickey01
  • Score: 3

12:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Kingontail wrote:
actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant
Wouldn't that reduce the "massive catchment" !
[quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant[/p][/quote]Wouldn't that reduce the "massive catchment" ! 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 2

12:41pm Thu 13 Mar 14

mickey01 says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
derek james wrote:
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ...

My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started.

My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ...

My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse..

When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise.

Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.
can i borrow you and your brothers to sort my neighbours out please
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep[/p][/quote]Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ... My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started. My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ... My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse.. When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise. Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.[/p][/quote]can i borrow you and your brothers to sort my neighbours out please mickey01
  • Score: 5

12:45pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Bournemouth air says...

Its good timing when Flybe are pulling out of there long haul flights.............
.....
Its good timing when Flybe are pulling out of there long haul flights............. ..... Bournemouth air
  • Score: 3

1:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

good-gosh says...

A 600m extension would be more useful, so the strip could take regular big jets
A 600m extension would be more useful, so the strip could take regular big jets good-gosh
  • Score: 1

1:33pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Mister E says...

Surely, it can only be a good thing?
It is said there won't be an increase in size of aircraft using the airport, they can just fly further! An additional 1000 jobs created and no increase in noise! A win win surely?
Go for it!
Surely, it can only be a good thing? It is said there won't be an increase in size of aircraft using the airport, they can just fly further! An additional 1000 jobs created and no increase in noise! A win win surely? Go for it! Mister E
  • Score: 6

1:35pm Thu 13 Mar 14

tharg64 says...

Micle1974 wrote:
Maybe these people moaning should go and live underneath gatwick or heathrow for a few days.
You get used to it after a while and don't even notice them there....the planes at Southampton aren't exactly big anyway are they?!?
Expand it or close it.
Errrm....I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about.

People who live near Heathrow or Gatwick don't get used to it. Believe me & I live under what was a relatively acceptable flight path from Heathrow but continual increases in the number of flights (day & night) and their plans to expand further have local residents up in arms. Unfortunately as is always the case big business and the Govt will ensure the expansion.

The planes at Southampton may not be big, but extend the runway and you can bet the planes will get bigger.
[quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: Maybe these people moaning should go and live underneath gatwick or heathrow for a few days. You get used to it after a while and don't even notice them there....the planes at Southampton aren't exactly big anyway are they?!? Expand it or close it.[/p][/quote]Errrm....I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. People who live near Heathrow or Gatwick don't get used to it. Believe me & I live under what was a relatively acceptable flight path from Heathrow but continual increases in the number of flights (day & night) and their plans to expand further have local residents up in arms. Unfortunately as is always the case big business and the Govt will ensure the expansion. The planes at Southampton may not be big, but extend the runway and you can bet the planes will get bigger. tharg64
  • Score: 5

1:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

WoolstonSean says...

Bring it on it has been ALONG time coming!
Bring it on it has been ALONG time coming! WoolstonSean
  • Score: 4

1:50pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Kingontail says...

100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Kingontail wrote:
actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant
Wouldn't that reduce the "massive catchment" !
no it would be fine. Don't think they would be part of the target market - non of that "foreign holiday muck" for these people. they would rather sit and home eating pies looking at pictures of Nick Clegg (and probably now Nigel Farage ).
[quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: actually a very good idea. massive catchment. They could make it much bigger by demolishing a large part of Eastleigh, which lets face it is deeply unpleasant[/p][/quote]Wouldn't that reduce the "massive catchment" ![/p][/quote]no it would be fine. Don't think they would be part of the target market - non of that "foreign holiday muck" for these people. they would rather sit and home eating pies looking at pictures of Nick Clegg (and probably now Nigel Farage ). Kingontail
  • Score: -4

2:05pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Newforest says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?! Newforest
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Chipster says...

get on with life wrote:
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
Why is this gentleman a P#%#K?

At worst his comment could be interpreted as juvenile but my guess it was mostly tongue in cheek, so lets all behave like adults shall we?

Like it or not the airport is here to stay, and has been an airfield long before most of the houses on the perimeter and glide-path were built. Today aircraft are also far more quiet and efficient and don't require massive runways as in the past. I sympathise if there are times when overflying can be disruptive, I used to live close by to the College of Air Training in Hamble when it was open so I do empathise with your disquiet about the changes.

However, the runway lengthening is a nominal extension but will enable aircraft to carry more fuel, enabling Southampton to reach more distant and perhaps more lucrative destinations. It may lead to more flights and/or it may also lead to less profitable destinations to be dis-continued. If the project goes ahead and creates more employment all good and well, lets face it there has been enough closures of businesses and factories within the local area with very few expanding!

On a personal level I hope this goes ahead, Southampton needs to compete to be successful and not rely on just treading water! We also need to ensure that for generations to come there is still local employment for local people!

Now, does this also make me a P#%#K?
[quote][p][bold]get on with life[/bold] wrote: 6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ![/p][/quote]Why is this gentleman a P#%#K? At worst his comment could be interpreted as juvenile but my guess it was mostly tongue in cheek, so lets all behave like adults shall we? Like it or not the airport is here to stay, and has been an airfield long before most of the houses on the perimeter and glide-path were built. Today aircraft are also far more quiet and efficient and don't require massive runways as in the past. I sympathise if there are times when overflying can be disruptive, I used to live close by to the College of Air Training in Hamble when it was open so I do empathise with your disquiet about the changes. However, the runway lengthening is a nominal extension but will enable aircraft to carry more fuel, enabling Southampton to reach more distant and perhaps more lucrative destinations. It may lead to more flights and/or it may also lead to less profitable destinations to be dis-continued. If the project goes ahead and creates more employment all good and well, lets face it there has been enough closures of businesses and factories within the local area with very few expanding! On a personal level I hope this goes ahead, Southampton needs to compete to be successful and not rely on just treading water! We also need to ensure that for generations to come there is still local employment for local people! Now, does this also make me a P#%#K? Chipster
  • Score: 7

2:09pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bournemouth air wrote:
Its good timing when Flybe are pulling out of there long haul flights.............

.....
It is "Their" not "there"!
Maybe to be replaced by someone else perhaps? easyJet, Vueling, or worse still Ryanair! A320, Boeing 757 and Boeing 737NG, none of which is particularly noisier than an Embraer 195.
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth air[/bold] wrote: Its good timing when Flybe are pulling out of there long haul flights............. .....[/p][/quote]It is "Their" not "there"! Maybe to be replaced by someone else perhaps? easyJet, Vueling, or worse still Ryanair! A320, Boeing 757 and Boeing 737NG, none of which is particularly noisier than an Embraer 195. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:28pm Thu 13 Mar 14

St.Ray says...

derek james wrote:
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
their
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep[/p][/quote]their St.Ray
  • Score: -3

2:56pm Thu 13 Mar 14

osasaint says...

The proposal makes enormous sense, from the commercial, strategic and safety angles.
The proposal makes enormous sense, from the commercial, strategic and safety angles. osasaint
  • Score: 2

3:00pm Thu 13 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

looks good. let's get this done
looks good. let's get this done 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
Had a Boeing 727 in Eastleigh Airport on 2nd February 2003, XT-BBE was a weather diversion from Lasham. Unusual aircraft, unusual registration Burkina Faso Government. There have been other examples but a rare bird indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]Had a Boeing 727 in Eastleigh Airport on 2nd February 2003, XT-BBE was a weather diversion from Lasham. Unusual aircraft, unusual registration Burkina Faso Government. There have been other examples but a rare bird indeed. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

good-gosh wrote:
A 600m extension would be more useful, so the strip could take regular big jets
How about a "ski-jump" runway over the M27!
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: A 600m extension would be more useful, so the strip could take regular big jets[/p][/quote]How about a "ski-jump" runway over the M27! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

3:56pm Thu 13 Mar 14

derek james says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
derek james wrote:
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ...

My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started.

My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ...

My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse..

When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise.

Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.
using your argument anyone who buys a house 100m from a cliff edge shouldn't be surprised when it falls into the see 30 or 40 years later! anyone who buys a house near an airport should expect it to expand. in the summer daedulus is quite noisy with tiger moths, chipmunks and the occasional spitfire but no one complains
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep[/p][/quote]Yes, Osprey Saint, this man is a plank, and here's an argument ... My parents live in Bitterne Park under the flightpath of Southampton Airport. They bought their house in 1960, when it was just a place where the occasional private flyer toook off ofr a fun-flight. Before that tehy lived in Bitterne Park, and my grandfather was a specialist machine gun fitter for the Spitfires. My father was taken in a test flight from Eastleigh Airport (as it was then known) before the war started. My grandparents started living in Bitterne Park under the flight path before there was a flight path ... My parents love gardening, and spend lots of time out there. If their neighbour consistently plays loud music, they have a procedure whereby they can complain. If the neighbours don't listen (which has happened when the house was rented to a group of young lads for a while), I can go and visit them with my brothers and we can ask more forcefully. Nobody asked them if they minded the regular airplane and quite deafening airplane noise, which is a constant nuisance, or offered them a remedy if it disturbed them. Noone has given them a say in wherther that noise should get worse.. When I stay there when I'm home from Africa - and I was born in that house - I hate the noise. Now, they aren't particularly complaining unless the noise gets worse, or the times when flights are allowed is increased - that generation don't tend to complain - but please, don't insinuate that their annoyance at an increase in that noise is somehow their fault for living there, and don't imply that they don't have the right to state that they don't want that annoyance to increase.[/p][/quote]using your argument anyone who buys a house 100m from a cliff edge shouldn't be surprised when it falls into the see 30 or 40 years later! anyone who buys a house near an airport should expect it to expand. in the summer daedulus is quite noisy with tiger moths, chipmunks and the occasional spitfire but no one complains derek james
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Thu 13 Mar 14

issacchunt says...

derek james wrote:
always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep
And some bought before expansion or rent social housing with little choice as to location. I'm all for it myself but we all have a right to an opinion which is why this forum exists.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep[/p][/quote]And some bought before expansion or rent social housing with little choice as to location. I'm all for it myself but we all have a right to an opinion which is why this forum exists. issacchunt
  • Score: 3

4:34pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
get on with life wrote:
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you?

As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.
I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target.
Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D
It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it.
I bet they are loving this :)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]get on with life[/bold] wrote: 6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ![/p][/quote]Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you? As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target. Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it. I bet they are loving this :) SOULJACKER
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

Redflag14 wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice!
Couldn't afjord it!
lolololololol, very good :)
[quote][p][bold]Redflag14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: I guess as Liverpool got loads of tax payers money for their cruise terminal Southampton get as much for this project? Direct flights to Norway will be nice![/p][/quote]Couldn't afjord it![/p][/quote]lolololololol, very good :) SOULJACKER
  • Score: 1

4:41pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
About 1992 as I recall :)
[quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]About 1992 as I recall :) SOULJACKER
  • Score: 2

5:34pm Thu 13 Mar 14

issacchunt says...

1000 jobs??????? 950 of those will be in construction.
1000 jobs??????? 950 of those will be in construction. issacchunt
  • Score: 3

5:59pm Thu 13 Mar 14

good-gosh says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
A 600m extension would be more useful, so the strip could take regular big jets
How about a "ski-jump" runway over the M27!
Yes, they are too short of ground on their existing line.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: A 600m extension would be more useful, so the strip could take regular big jets[/p][/quote]How about a "ski-jump" runway over the M27![/p][/quote]Yes, they are too short of ground on their existing line. good-gosh
  • Score: 0

6:05pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Newforest says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
Had a Boeing 727 in Eastleigh Airport on 2nd February 2003, XT-BBE was a weather diversion from Lasham. Unusual aircraft, unusual registration Burkina Faso Government. There have been other examples but a rare bird indeed.
So, eleven years ago, must have been great to see. They really look big on the apron don't they! I was thinking maybe the O.P. had meant a 737. Go expansion!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]Had a Boeing 727 in Eastleigh Airport on 2nd February 2003, XT-BBE was a weather diversion from Lasham. Unusual aircraft, unusual registration Burkina Faso Government. There have been other examples but a rare bird indeed.[/p][/quote]So, eleven years ago, must have been great to see. They really look big on the apron don't they! I was thinking maybe the O.P. had meant a 737. Go expansion!! Newforest
  • Score: 1

6:06pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
get on with life wrote:
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you?

As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.
I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target.
Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D
It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it.
I bet they are loving this :)
The "Jet" accident that you refer to was a Citation business jet, which as a result of a catalogue of errors finished up over running the runway on to the M27, mostly put down to pilot error.
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]get on with life[/bold] wrote: 6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ![/p][/quote]Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you? As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target. Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it. I bet they are loving this :)[/p][/quote]The "Jet" accident that you refer to was a Citation business jet, which as a result of a catalogue of errors finished up over running the runway on to the M27, mostly put down to pilot error. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

6:07pm Thu 13 Mar 14

03alpe01 says...

I wonder if this will have an impact on the (99% chance of happening) housing estate that will become part of Fords...
I wonder if this will have an impact on the (99% chance of happening) housing estate that will become part of Fords... 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

6:25pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
get on with life wrote:
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you?

As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.
I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target.
Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D
It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it.
I bet they are loving this :)
The "Jet" accident that you refer to was a Citation business jet, which as a result of a catalogue of errors finished up over running the runway on to the M27, mostly put down to pilot error.
Yep that's the one, didn't he land the wrong way or something & it was p!ssing with rain & he landed 20 instead of 02 , Oh my God I sound like a geek now, I think I lived on the flight path for far too long!
Maybe they should bring back them old 'BIA' BAC1.11 & 'Britannia' B737's on a Friday night for the riots up North, that should do it!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]get on with life[/bold] wrote: 6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ![/p][/quote]Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you? As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target. Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it. I bet they are loving this :)[/p][/quote]The "Jet" accident that you refer to was a Citation business jet, which as a result of a catalogue of errors finished up over running the runway on to the M27, mostly put down to pilot error.[/p][/quote]Yep that's the one, didn't he land the wrong way or something & it was p!ssing with rain & he landed 20 instead of 02 , Oh my God I sound like a geek now, I think I lived on the flight path for far too long! Maybe they should bring back them old 'BIA' BAC1.11 & 'Britannia' B737's on a Friday night for the riots up North, that should do it! SOULJACKER
  • Score: 1

6:30pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SOULJACKER says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bournemouth air wrote:
Its good timing when Flybe are pulling out of there long haul flights.............


.....
It is "Their" not "there"!
Maybe to be replaced by someone else perhaps? easyJet, Vueling, or worse still Ryanair! A320, Boeing 757 and Boeing 737NG, none of which is particularly noisier than an Embraer 195.
Urghhhhh, a Bournemouth boi, maybe after their £50 worth of passenger terminal investment they may end up with the old Dan Air 748's like they had back in the 1980's :D
Please tell me to shut up now, I have had way too much Cider now & slipped into geeksville USA :D
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth air[/bold] wrote: Its good timing when Flybe are pulling out of there long haul flights............. .....[/p][/quote]It is "Their" not "there"! Maybe to be replaced by someone else perhaps? easyJet, Vueling, or worse still Ryanair! A320, Boeing 757 and Boeing 737NG, none of which is particularly noisier than an Embraer 195.[/p][/quote]Urghhhhh, a Bournemouth boi, maybe after their £50 worth of passenger terminal investment they may end up with the old Dan Air 748's like they had back in the 1980's :D Please tell me to shut up now, I have had way too much Cider now & slipped into geeksville USA :D SOULJACKER
  • Score: 1

6:43pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

What they could do is put in the promised perimeter road with a connection to the East of Eastleigh and develop the Eastern side of the airport for aviation use.
What they could do is put in the promised perimeter road with a connection to the East of Eastleigh and develop the Eastern side of the airport for aviation use. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

9:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

derek james says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
get on with life wrote:
6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14
derek james says...

always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep

YOU P#%#K !
Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you?

As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.
I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target.
Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D
It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it.
I bet they are loving this :)
The "Jet" accident that you refer to was a Citation business jet, which as a result of a catalogue of errors finished up over running the runway on to the M27, mostly put down to pilot error.
Yep that's the one, didn't he land the wrong way or something & it was p!ssing with rain & he landed 20 instead of 02 , Oh my God I sound like a geek now, I think I lived on the flight path for far too long!
Maybe they should bring back them old 'BIA' BAC1.11 & 'Britannia' B737's on a Friday night for the riots up North, that should do it!
was an aircraft in the early 90's landed with the pilot outside the aircraft. windscreen sucked out and the pilot landed hanging on
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]get on with life[/bold] wrote: 6:14am Thu 13 Mar 14 derek james says... always a few nimbys who bought their houses full well knowing there's an airport on there doorstep YOU P#%#K ![/p][/quote]Couldn't find that word in any dictionary, so I assume it is some form of abuse? Rather than posting this nonsense why not post a reasonable argument against the proposal if you think that it could affect you? As far as I can see they just want to extend the take off run on Runway 20, and possibly a longer run off on Runway 02. This isn't enough to encourage aircraft any larger than what already use the airport, but will give the Pilots more peace of mind when using the runway and possibly add a few more seats or a little more fuel for endurance. There is no chance of any widebody aircraft as there is no infrastructure to cope with them. We get the usual nimbys coming out of the woodwork with the same old tired arguments. In the main the longer runway will lead to a quieter environment, as most aircraft will either climb out sooner, or use less power, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]I gotta say it's a shame that they ever put that darn M27 where they did or the Ford site would be prime extension target. Mind you as I recall they landed a jet on the motorway didn't they back in the late 1980's wasn't it but I don't think they really planned on it :D It also amazes me that the same old 'Nimby names' that were moaning back in the 1980's up in Townhill Park when there were about Three Air UK flights & a couple of flying club aircraft in the circuit in a day are still at it. I bet they are loving this :)[/p][/quote]The "Jet" accident that you refer to was a Citation business jet, which as a result of a catalogue of errors finished up over running the runway on to the M27, mostly put down to pilot error.[/p][/quote]Yep that's the one, didn't he land the wrong way or something & it was p!ssing with rain & he landed 20 instead of 02 , Oh my God I sound like a geek now, I think I lived on the flight path for far too long! Maybe they should bring back them old 'BIA' BAC1.11 & 'Britannia' B737's on a Friday night for the riots up North, that should do it![/p][/quote]was an aircraft in the early 90's landed with the pilot outside the aircraft. windscreen sucked out and the pilot landed hanging on derek james
  • Score: -3

11:10pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Micle1974 says...

Extend the runway over the m27 and into fords and take the m27 through a tunnel ! £££££££££
Extend the runway over the m27 and into fords and take the m27 through a tunnel ! £££££££££ Micle1974
  • Score: 1

11:37pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.
[quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -1

1:11am Fri 14 Mar 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

A-320, BAE 146-200 have both been known to land in Southampton.
A-320, BAE 146-200 have both been known to land in Southampton. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

7:51am Fri 14 Mar 14

Dan Brain says...

Jobs great, international links great. My only concern is wether the local road network particularly around junction 5/ airport parkway station can handle another 1000 people working there and 1million more passengers.
It simply needs the council to seriously get behind investing in the necessary infrastructure first, encouraging and allowing the area to develope and prosper. Apparently it's too expensive, yet they can find a third of the expected cost of a new road to build not necessary infrastructue that will benefit many daily ......but a hotel!
Jobs great, international links great. My only concern is wether the local road network particularly around junction 5/ airport parkway station can handle another 1000 people working there and 1million more passengers. It simply needs the council to seriously get behind investing in the necessary infrastructure first, encouraging and allowing the area to develope and prosper. Apparently it's too expensive, yet they can find a third of the expected cost of a new road to build not necessary infrastructue that will benefit many daily ......but a hotel! Dan Brain
  • Score: 0

8:59am Fri 14 Mar 14

good-gosh says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.
I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.[/p][/quote]I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real. good-gosh
  • Score: 2

9:06am Fri 14 Mar 14

good-gosh says...

good-gosh wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.
I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real.
PS – it would be quite OK for a real pilot but no margin for missing the touchdown spot.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.[/p][/quote]I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real.[/p][/quote]PS – it would be quite OK for a real pilot but no margin for missing the touchdown spot. good-gosh
  • Score: 1

11:03am Fri 14 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

good-gosh wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.
I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real.
PS – it would be quite OK for a real pilot but no margin for missing the touchdown spot.
Actually G-G,with hindsight, I think it might've been a 737,I've just Googled it...doh !! Its my age,I'm easily confused!
Whatever it was,its not the type of take off or landing I'd like to experience too often though.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.[/p][/quote]I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real.[/p][/quote]PS – it would be quite OK for a real pilot but no margin for missing the touchdown spot.[/p][/quote]Actually G-G,with hindsight, I think it might've been a 737,I've just Googled it...doh !! Its my age,I'm easily confused! Whatever it was,its not the type of take off or landing I'd like to experience too often though. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

11:10am Fri 14 Mar 14

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire says...

Great idea to use the old Ford site, with the motorway going under the runway, as in Charles de Gaul in that France

The runway should be as long as possible to increase flight options.

An I in a minority in quite liking the planes going overhead?
Great idea to use the old Ford site, with the motorway going under the runway, as in Charles de Gaul in that France The runway should be as long as possible to increase flight options. An I in a minority in quite liking the planes going overhead? There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire
  • Score: 3

11:40am Fri 14 Mar 14

Cyber__Fug says...

AnnaSouthampton wrote:
As a local resident I'm all for this! Brings more money into the economy, and should hopefully provide jobs to locals that have felt the loss of Ford closing... My only concern is the road network! I hope the council finally sort out the bottleneck by the new MSCP and put a slip road onto the Eastbound M27 to cope with the additional traffic.
I am sure the road network would be okay! Raiment would just tell people to stay away when there's a plane due to land,
[quote][p][bold]AnnaSouthampton[/bold] wrote: As a local resident I'm all for this! Brings more money into the economy, and should hopefully provide jobs to locals that have felt the loss of Ford closing... My only concern is the road network! I hope the council finally sort out the bottleneck by the new MSCP and put a slip road onto the Eastbound M27 to cope with the additional traffic.[/p][/quote]I am sure the road network would be okay! Raiment would just tell people to stay away when there's a plane due to land, Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Fri 14 Mar 14

loosehead says...

I put forward the idea of the roads under the runway now to put forward another idea.
planes fly over the waterside so why not turn the reclaimed land at Dibden into a international airport?
upgrade all train lines & use Marchwood as a giant Car Park & use shuttles to get passengers to the Terminals?
Then use Southampton/Eastleig
h Airport as a satellite of Southampton Docks storing cars waiting for shipment or to be taken to dealers?
I put forward the idea of the roads under the runway now to put forward another idea. planes fly over the waterside so why not turn the reclaimed land at Dibden into a international airport? upgrade all train lines & use Marchwood as a giant Car Park & use shuttles to get passengers to the Terminals? Then use Southampton/Eastleig h Airport as a satellite of Southampton Docks storing cars waiting for shipment or to be taken to dealers? loosehead
  • Score: 1

8:42pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Ulysses 31 says...

good-gosh wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Newforest wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 !
When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?!
Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.
I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real.
Haha 737 is easy, I've landed a very lightly fuelled 747 and Concorde at EGHI with room to spare, took of from Hurn (on sim of course!)
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: At least it won't be such a buttock clenching experience landing and taking off in a 727 ![/p][/quote]When did you last see a 727 at Easteigh?![/p][/quote]Don't know,I've blocked it from my memory,there wasn't a lot of runway left by the time we'd finished braking.[/p][/quote]I've just played with landing a 737 at Southampton on a simulator – took two attempts - only just enough runway to stop if touchdown is right on the start line. Wouldn’t be good for real.[/p][/quote]Haha 737 is easy, I've landed a very lightly fuelled 747 and Concorde at EGHI with room to spare, took of from Hurn (on sim of course!) Ulysses 31
  • Score: 1

8:47pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Ulysses 31 says...

I remember when I saw an Il-76 land at Eastleigh, that was a bit of a shock! Oh how I miss the old days of the dart when the place reverberated to the whine of the darts from F-27's, Heralds, Viscounts and 748's, and then there were the Shorts 330's and 360's and I even remember for a while DC-3's from Air Atlantique were regular visitors, and every now and then a really weird looking plane came in with a big bulbous nose, I later found out it was called a Bristol Freighter.
I remember when I saw an Il-76 land at Eastleigh, that was a bit of a shock! Oh how I miss the old days of the dart when the place reverberated to the whine of the darts from F-27's, Heralds, Viscounts and 748's, and then there were the Shorts 330's and 360's and I even remember for a while DC-3's from Air Atlantique were regular visitors, and every now and then a really weird looking plane came in with a big bulbous nose, I later found out it was called a Bristol Freighter. Ulysses 31
  • Score: 1

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