Jobs to go as Matalan closes Southampton store at The Marlands

Andover Advertiser: Matalan at The Marlands in Southampton Matalan at The Marlands in Southampton

A FLAGSHIP Southampton store is pulling out of the city with the loss of scores of jobs.

Matalan has confirmed that its store in the Marlands shopping centre would be closing within weeks.

The Daily Echo has been told that the company had decided not to renew its lease for the two-floor unit at the shopping centre around 18 months ago.

Since then centre bosses have been working to find new tenants to take over the premises. Now that has happened the clothing and homeware chain has been served formal notice to quit the site, meaning the store will cease trading at the end of May.

The Marlands general manager Tim Keeping said the decision for Matalan to leave was a mutual one.

He revealed to the Daily Echo that the new tenants lined up to take over the premises included Peacocks and Poundworld.

He said the centre was also in advanced talks with a third retail brand.

Mr Keeping said: “The Matalan store here in the Marlands is very different to their retail operations elsewhere and whilst they have traded successfully from the store here for several years they have reached the business decision to withdraw from the centre.

"This has given us the opportunity to reconfigure the space they currently occupy and introduce some new retailers to the scheme.

"Following on from the other recent additions of fashion retailers Roman, Yours and Blue Inc. both Peacocks and Poundworld are great retailers and will offer yet more reasons for shoppers to visit the Marlands. We will hopefully be in a position to make a further announcement about another exciting addition to the line-up shortly.”

Mr Keeping said that the aim was for Peacocks and Poundworld to be open for business in November.

Matalan declined to comment on the closure but did confirm that they had been given notice to leave the site although added they did not want to leave the city.

A spokesman said it was too early to confirm whether any alternative sites in Southampton were being sought and that they were not able to comment on the number of job losses due to “legal reasons”.

Matalan has been a popular store in Southampton since it opened twelve years ago.

As reported at the time the chain took over the unit previously occupied by Dunnes Stores which pulled out in 2002.

Matalan was officially opened later that year by the then mayor Brian Parnell.

The opening was seen as a boost for the centre and the city with the creation of more than 100 jobs.

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6:27am Sat 26 Apr 14

proud2bfrom southampton says...

What store in above bar ?
What store in above bar ? proud2bfrom southampton
  • Score: 3

7:17am Sat 26 Apr 14

sue1956 says...

Peacocks, near the Bar Gate.
Peacocks, near the Bar Gate. sue1956
  • Score: -2

7:26am Sat 26 Apr 14

trigginator says...

Yet again the Echo gets it wrong!!!!! There hasn't been a Peacock in Above Bar since they went bankrupt about 4 years ago. Poundland is now on that
Yet again the Echo gets it wrong!!!!! There hasn't been a Peacock in Above Bar since they went bankrupt about 4 years ago. Poundland is now on that trigginator
  • Score: 39

7:41am Sat 26 Apr 14

tootle says...

Hardly surprising. At least it explains why service tends to be appallingly slow, the stock poorly displayed and the choice not as good as other matalan stores I regularly visit.
Hardly surprising. At least it explains why service tends to be appallingly slow, the stock poorly displayed and the choice not as good as other matalan stores I regularly visit. tootle
  • Score: 2

7:55am Sat 26 Apr 14

Nod says...

So they're going to have a Poundworld in the centre a few doors down from the Poundland store?

are Southampton City council for another white elephant when Watermark West Quay opens?

East Street Shopping centre has just been Demolished. Bargate Shopping Centre is boarded up with no future, Marlands now pretty much reduced to pound and saver shops.

Its going to be a pretty embarrassing sight for people visitng Southampton via the Train Station at the least.
So they're going to have a Poundworld in the centre a few doors down from the Poundland store? are Southampton City council for another white elephant when Watermark West Quay opens? East Street Shopping centre has just been Demolished. Bargate Shopping Centre is boarded up with no future, Marlands now pretty much reduced to pound and saver shops. Its going to be a pretty embarrassing sight for people visitng Southampton via the Train Station at the least. Nod
  • Score: 64

8:02am Sat 26 Apr 14

Saint Botley says...

Another Poundland doesn't create a good impression in the city centre. Not sure what we're charging for retail rates in Southampton but it does seem to put stores off. At least The Marlands take the trouble to decorate the frontage of vacant units I suppose. The council might want to think about applying that sort of thing to the boarded up Bargate centre. Absolute eyesore next to our proudest monument.
Another Poundland doesn't create a good impression in the city centre. Not sure what we're charging for retail rates in Southampton but it does seem to put stores off. At least The Marlands take the trouble to decorate the frontage of vacant units I suppose. The council might want to think about applying that sort of thing to the boarded up Bargate centre. Absolute eyesore next to our proudest monument. Saint Botley
  • Score: 58

8:02am Sat 26 Apr 14

proud2bfrom southampton says...

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8:03am Sat 26 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff bigfella777
  • Score: 26

8:03am Sat 26 Apr 14

sotonian91 says...

Such a shame to see a great shop like Matalan go, let's hope it is peacocks that becomes the new shop because there's no need to have a poundland & a poundworld.
Such a shame to see a great shop like Matalan go, let's hope it is peacocks that becomes the new shop because there's no need to have a poundland & a poundworld. sotonian91
  • Score: 24

8:09am Sat 26 Apr 14

Micle1974 says...

This town, is coming like a ghost town
All the clubs have been closed down
This place, is coming like a ghost town
Bands won't play no more
too much fighting on the dance floor

Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town?
We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown

This town, is coming like a ghost town
Why must the youth fight against themselves?
Government leaving the youth on the shelf
This place, is coming like a ghost town
No job to be found in this country
Can't go on no more
The people getting angry

This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town All the clubs have been closed down This place, is coming like a ghost town Bands won't play no more too much fighting on the dance floor Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town? We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown This town, is coming like a ghost town Why must the youth fight against themselves? Government leaving the youth on the shelf This place, is coming like a ghost town No job to be found in this country Can't go on no more The people getting angry This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town Micle1974
  • Score: 37

8:20am Sat 26 Apr 14

Saint Botley says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'. Saint Botley
  • Score: 72

8:22am Sat 26 Apr 14

lindseyloo22 says...

So very disappointed I like matalan another pound shop so we will have three pound shops in Southampton! Doesn't look good really does it. Southamptons only attraction is west quay and let's face it that isn't great. A real shame
So very disappointed I like matalan another pound shop so we will have three pound shops in Southampton! Doesn't look good really does it. Southamptons only attraction is west quay and let's face it that isn't great. A real shame lindseyloo22
  • Score: 41

8:23am Sat 26 Apr 14

sue1956 says...

All the kids with babies will love it!
All the kids with babies will love it! sue1956
  • Score: 40

8:38am Sat 26 Apr 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

southampton is now sinking fast , but to read the propaganda ,the country is booming.
southampton is now sinking fast , but to read the propaganda ,the country is booming. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 28

8:42am Sat 26 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Where do you shop? Nothing wrong with poundland, Aldi, lidl etc. want to pay more for something to pamper your own self worth then fine but for anyone not into throwing money away they are very good.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Where do you shop? Nothing wrong with poundland, Aldi, lidl etc. want to pay more for something to pamper your own self worth then fine but for anyone not into throwing money away they are very good. elvisimo
  • Score: 7

8:47am Sat 26 Apr 14

sue1956 says...

trigginator wrote:
Yet again the Echo gets it wrong!!!!! There hasn't been a Peacock in Above Bar since they went bankrupt about 4 years ago. Poundland is now on that
Shows how often I go to our horrid city centre!
Don't think they went bust, just shut some shops. The one in Bitterne is still there.
[quote][p][bold]trigginator[/bold] wrote: Yet again the Echo gets it wrong!!!!! There hasn't been a Peacock in Above Bar since they went bankrupt about 4 years ago. Poundland is now on that[/p][/quote]Shows how often I go to our horrid city centre! Don't think they went bust, just shut some shops. The one in Bitterne is still there. sue1956
  • Score: 15

8:55am Sat 26 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed" Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 27

9:06am Sat 26 Apr 14

roofspace says...

Saint Botley wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.
My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56.
I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income.
It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.[/p][/quote]My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56. I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income. It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England. roofspace
  • Score: 16

9:07am Sat 26 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

sue1956 wrote:
trigginator wrote:
Yet again the Echo gets it wrong!!!!! There hasn't been a Peacock in Above Bar since they went bankrupt about 4 years ago. Poundland is now on that
Shows how often I go to our horrid city centre!
Don't think they went bust, just shut some shops. The one in Bitterne is still there.
Peacocks and Bon marche went into administration. Peacocks were 'rescued' and kept the profitable stores . Same with bon marche. Now two separate companies.
[quote][p][bold]sue1956[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trigginator[/bold] wrote: Yet again the Echo gets it wrong!!!!! There hasn't been a Peacock in Above Bar since they went bankrupt about 4 years ago. Poundland is now on that[/p][/quote]Shows how often I go to our horrid city centre! Don't think they went bust, just shut some shops. The one in Bitterne is still there.[/p][/quote]Peacocks and Bon marche went into administration. Peacocks were 'rescued' and kept the profitable stores . Same with bon marche. Now two separate companies. elvisimo
  • Score: 6

9:18am Sat 26 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

roofspace wrote:
Saint Botley wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.
My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56.
I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income.
It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.
Anyone with a brain knows that Poundland is actually a rip off and saves you nothing as was proved in the documentary about it. They are the ones who are taking advantage of the poor.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.[/p][/quote]My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56. I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income. It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.[/p][/quote]Anyone with a brain knows that Poundland is actually a rip off and saves you nothing as was proved in the documentary about it. They are the ones who are taking advantage of the poor. bigfella777
  • Score: 18

9:30am Sat 26 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
Thanks for that racist comment!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]Thanks for that racist comment! S Pance
  • Score: -24

9:30am Sat 26 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
Thanks for that racist comment!
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]Thanks for that racist comment! S Pance
  • Score: -38

9:35am Sat 26 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Does anyone shop in the Marlands anymore? Indeed does anyone shop in Matalands?

Bit of a **** favorite is Matalands.
Does anyone shop in the Marlands anymore? Indeed does anyone shop in Matalands? Bit of a **** favorite is Matalands. S Pance
  • Score: -28

9:36am Sat 26 Apr 14

focus19 says...

Bring Back the Marlands BUS STATION !! Who needs Marlands Shopping mall when you have the new West Quay Complex being built . Southampton needs a Transport Hub and Park & Ride before the streets eventually clog up. Southampton IS BUSY at weekends, Saturday & Sundays are busier than weekday as the Traffic congestion is worse.
Bring Back the Marlands BUS STATION !! Who needs Marlands Shopping mall when you have the new West Quay Complex being built . Southampton needs a Transport Hub and Park & Ride before the streets eventually clog up. Southampton IS BUSY at weekends, Saturday & Sundays are busier than weekday as the Traffic congestion is worse. focus19
  • Score: 30

9:52am Sat 26 Apr 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

focus19 wrote:
Bring Back the Marlands BUS STATION !! Who needs Marlands Shopping mall when you have the new West Quay Complex being built . Southampton needs a Transport Hub and Park & Ride before the streets eventually clog up. Southampton IS BUSY at weekends, Saturday & Sundays are busier than weekday as the Traffic congestion is worse.
buses defeat the object of raking in all the parking extortion , never happen.
[quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: Bring Back the Marlands BUS STATION !! Who needs Marlands Shopping mall when you have the new West Quay Complex being built . Southampton needs a Transport Hub and Park & Ride before the streets eventually clog up. Southampton IS BUSY at weekends, Saturday & Sundays are busier than weekday as the Traffic congestion is worse.[/p][/quote]buses defeat the object of raking in all the parking extortion , never happen. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 15

10:00am Sat 26 Apr 14

derek james says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu derek james
  • Score: 21

10:04am Sat 26 Apr 14

learned more from a 2 minute record than ever learned in school says...

Southampton city centre is a dreadful plave ,Why on earth do the cruise ships want to stay here docking ! Move them to Liverpool
Southampton city centre is a dreadful plave ,Why on earth do the cruise ships want to stay here docking ! Move them to Liverpool learned more from a 2 minute record than ever learned in school
  • Score: -30

10:05am Sat 26 Apr 14

boxing_nut says...

focus19 wrote:
Bring Back the Marlands BUS STATION !! Who needs Marlands Shopping mall when you have the new West Quay Complex being built . Southampton needs a Transport Hub and Park & Ride before the streets eventually clog up. Southampton IS BUSY at weekends, Saturday & Sundays are busier than weekday as the Traffic congestion is worse.
WHAT southampton is busy at weekends? Who'd have thought this? anything else to add? When the moon is out its night time, don't eat yellow snow, etc?
[quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: Bring Back the Marlands BUS STATION !! Who needs Marlands Shopping mall when you have the new West Quay Complex being built . Southampton needs a Transport Hub and Park & Ride before the streets eventually clog up. Southampton IS BUSY at weekends, Saturday & Sundays are busier than weekday as the Traffic congestion is worse.[/p][/quote]WHAT southampton is busy at weekends? Who'd have thought this? anything else to add? When the moon is out its night time, don't eat yellow snow, etc? boxing_nut
  • Score: -4

10:06am Sat 26 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 22

10:17am Sat 26 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
Seed

Who is 'Southampton'?
I suppose you mean the Council?
In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop.
It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents.
We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.[/p][/quote]Seed Who is 'Southampton'? I suppose you mean the Council? In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop. It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents. We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks phil maccavity
  • Score: 7

10:23am Sat 26 Apr 14

Big Mac says...

Why not just turn it into flats, that's the usual solution.
Why not just turn it into flats, that's the usual solution. Big Mac
  • Score: -2

10:29am Sat 26 Apr 14

Stan1st says...

Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.
Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center. Stan1st
  • Score: 31

10:38am Sat 26 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
Seed

Who is 'Southampton'?
I suppose you mean the Council?
In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop.
It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents.
We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks
Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now.

Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices.

The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.[/p][/quote]Seed Who is 'Southampton'? I suppose you mean the Council? In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop. It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents. We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks[/p][/quote]Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now. Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices. The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 23

10:46am Sat 26 Apr 14

WarwickNights says...

Why don't they just have a big jumble sale there when it closes or have a car boot sale in the Guildhall car park. This city is a dump
Why don't they just have a big jumble sale there when it closes or have a car boot sale in the Guildhall car park. This city is a dump WarwickNights
  • Score: 10

10:50am Sat 26 Apr 14

Jonny7oma says...

I'm not really sure this is much of a story to be fair. Matalan gave notice some time ago to the owners of Marlands (which isn't the council, who only take rates, they don't take rent or have a huge say in who sets up there, if at all). The owners have come up with two retailers, possibly another one which will all bring jobs so where is the problem? Oh of course, it's the quality of the shops, that's the problem. Well for all you doom mongers, being snobbish about these shops (and I'd have said that Matalan were aimed at the same market myself) isn't right is it? What ever you may think, having an empty shop space, especially in such a prominent position, would be far worse.
I live in the city centre and I can assure all you people running the city down that it's not a sh1thole, quite the opposite. It's just got the Builders and decorators in that's all. I'm proud to be from Southampton and proud to live here. Seems to be something of a minority on these pages at times. I would take issue with the person that thought Portsmouth was better though, Maybe that person needs a visit to the eye hospital (we have a lovely one in Southampton by the General).
I'm not really sure this is much of a story to be fair. Matalan gave notice some time ago to the owners of Marlands (which isn't the council, who only take rates, they don't take rent or have a huge say in who sets up there, if at all). The owners have come up with two retailers, possibly another one which will all bring jobs so where is the problem? Oh of course, it's the quality of the shops, that's the problem. Well for all you doom mongers, being snobbish about these shops (and I'd have said that Matalan were aimed at the same market myself) isn't right is it? What ever you may think, having an empty shop space, especially in such a prominent position, would be far worse. I live in the city centre and I can assure all you people running the city down that it's not a sh1thole, quite the opposite. It's just got the Builders and decorators in that's all. I'm proud to be from Southampton and proud to live here. Seems to be something of a minority on these pages at times. I would take issue with the person that thought Portsmouth was better though, Maybe that person needs a visit to the eye hospital (we have a lovely one in Southampton by the General). Jonny7oma
  • Score: 15

10:52am Sat 26 Apr 14

ToastyTea says...

Great another empty shop or replaced with another cheap chain shop sh1te, the city centre is such a state these days it's sad.
Great another empty shop or replaced with another cheap chain shop sh1te, the city centre is such a state these days it's sad. ToastyTea
  • Score: 0

11:10am Sat 26 Apr 14

dans_t16s says...

How about something radical for the site?it would be an ideal location for a transport hub being in the centre of town. Something like a bus station to encourage people out of their cars. A bus station on the site. Sounds like a good idea to me. Wonder if anyone's ever thought of that before?...
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Doh! What a missed opportunity!
How about something radical for the site?it would be an ideal location for a transport hub being in the centre of town. Something like a bus station to encourage people out of their cars. A bus station on the site. Sounds like a good idea to me. Wonder if anyone's ever thought of that before?... . . Doh! What a missed opportunity! dans_t16s
  • Score: 3

11:10am Sat 26 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

WarwickNights wrote:
Why don't they just have a big jumble sale there when it closes or have a car boot sale in the Guildhall car park. This city is a dump
I like this , the locals would love it, they like a good rummage about at a booty
[quote][p][bold]WarwickNights[/bold] wrote: Why don't they just have a big jumble sale there when it closes or have a car boot sale in the Guildhall car park. This city is a dump[/p][/quote]I like this , the locals would love it, they like a good rummage about at a booty bigfella777
  • Score: 0

11:26am Sat 26 Apr 14

The_Fuzz22 says...

derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu[/p][/quote]Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****. The_Fuzz22
  • Score: 0

11:28am Sat 26 Apr 14

mickey01 says...

Nod wrote:
So they're going to have a Poundworld in the centre a few doors down from the Poundland store?

are Southampton City council for another white elephant when Watermark West Quay opens?

East Street Shopping centre has just been Demolished. Bargate Shopping Centre is boarded up with no future, Marlands now pretty much reduced to pound and saver shops.

Its going to be a pretty embarrassing sight for people visitng Southampton via the Train Station at the least.
too right !! portsmouth here we come
[quote][p][bold]Nod[/bold] wrote: So they're going to have a Poundworld in the centre a few doors down from the Poundland store? are Southampton City council for another white elephant when Watermark West Quay opens? East Street Shopping centre has just been Demolished. Bargate Shopping Centre is boarded up with no future, Marlands now pretty much reduced to pound and saver shops. Its going to be a pretty embarrassing sight for people visitng Southampton via the Train Station at the least.[/p][/quote]too right !! portsmouth here we come mickey01
  • Score: 0

11:37am Sat 26 Apr 14

mickey01 says...

never liked the place its is full of tat and have more security people sniffing around than sales staff and poundworld / land / planet etc aint much better either they should make it into a hotel as we seem to be short of em
never liked the place its is full of tat and have more security people sniffing around than sales staff and poundworld / land / planet etc aint much better either they should make it into a hotel as we seem to be short of em mickey01
  • Score: -5

11:40am Sat 26 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

roofspace wrote:
Saint Botley wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.
My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56.
I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income.
It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.
Absolutely SPOT ON ..... well said
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.[/p][/quote]My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56. I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income. It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.[/p][/quote]Absolutely SPOT ON ..... well said Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -5

11:44am Sat 26 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

WarwickNights wrote:
Why don't they just have a big jumble sale there when it closes or have a car boot sale in the Guildhall car park. This city is a dump
Please feel free to go and live somewhere else ....... it is not compulsary to live here ....... in actual fact it would probably improve the City if you did Foxtrot Oscar
[quote][p][bold]WarwickNights[/bold] wrote: Why don't they just have a big jumble sale there when it closes or have a car boot sale in the Guildhall car park. This city is a dump[/p][/quote]Please feel free to go and live somewhere else ....... it is not compulsary to live here ....... in actual fact it would probably improve the City if you did Foxtrot Oscar Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -6

12:10pm Sat 26 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

Micle1974 wrote:
This town, is coming like a ghost town
All the clubs have been closed down
This place, is coming like a ghost town
Bands won't play no more
too much fighting on the dance floor

Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town?
We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown

This town, is coming like a ghost town
Why must the youth fight against themselves?
Government leaving the youth on the shelf
This place, is coming like a ghost town
No job to be found in this country
Can't go on no more
The people getting angry

This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
Best bloody place is bloody bed,
With bloody ice on bloody head,
You might as well be bloody dead,
In bloody Soton
(Apologies: The Bloody Orkneys by Cpt Hamish Blair)
[quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: This town, is coming like a ghost town All the clubs have been closed down This place, is coming like a ghost town Bands won't play no more too much fighting on the dance floor Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town? We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown This town, is coming like a ghost town Why must the youth fight against themselves? Government leaving the youth on the shelf This place, is coming like a ghost town No job to be found in this country Can't go on no more The people getting angry This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town[/p][/quote]Best bloody place is bloody bed, With bloody ice on bloody head, You might as well be bloody dead, In bloody Soton (Apologies: The Bloody Orkneys by Cpt Hamish Blair) good-gosh
  • Score: 1

12:32pm Sat 26 Apr 14

George4th says...

Stan1st wrote:
Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.
For Southampton to be a success you will need at least 20 years WITHOUT a Labour Council.............
.................

(While Unionism and the Labour party remain in control of Southampton, the City will keep going backwards! How do you expect to attract the well educated young, the entrepreneurs and the talented people if there is nothing here for them? If it wasn't for the Universities, the NHS and other Public Sector bodies, this would be a ghost town!)
[quote][p][bold]Stan1st[/bold] wrote: Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.[/p][/quote]For Southampton to be a success you will need at least 20 years WITHOUT a Labour Council............. ................. (While Unionism and the Labour party remain in control of Southampton, the City will keep going backwards! How do you expect to attract the well educated young, the entrepreneurs and the talented people if there is nothing here for them? If it wasn't for the Universities, the NHS and other Public Sector bodies, this would be a ghost town!) George4th
  • Score: 8

12:35pm Sat 26 Apr 14

forest hump says...

S Pance wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
Thanks for that racist comment!
Shallow, naive comment. Why would you force more through the turnstile when the ground is clearly full up?

Let's all play the racist card because it is fashionable and if you do not comply, the naughty-word police will get you.

People need to firstly wake up and then grow up. Hiding behind all of this trendy P.C. nonsense will get us nowhere fast.
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]Thanks for that racist comment![/p][/quote]Shallow, naive comment. Why would you force more through the turnstile when the ground is clearly full up? Let's all play the racist card because it is fashionable and if you do not comply, the naughty-word police will get you. People need to firstly wake up and then grow up. Hiding behind all of this trendy P.C. nonsense will get us nowhere fast. forest hump
  • Score: 5

12:35pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Quizbook says...

good-gosh wrote:
Micle1974 wrote:
This town, is coming like a ghost town
All the clubs have been closed down
This place, is coming like a ghost town
Bands won't play no more
too much fighting on the dance floor

Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town?
We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown

This town, is coming like a ghost town
Why must the youth fight against themselves?
Government leaving the youth on the shelf
This place, is coming like a ghost town
No job to be found in this country
Can't go on no more
The people getting angry

This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
Best bloody place is bloody bed,
With bloody ice on bloody head,
You might as well be bloody dead,
In bloody Soton
(Apologies: The Bloody Orkneys by Cpt Hamish Blair)
Nice to see the Bloody Orkney poem quoted, but my dad, who served 3 years as an anti-aircraft gunner in Orkney, always said that Cpt Blair pinched most of the verses from lines the soldiers scribled on the loo walls !
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: This town, is coming like a ghost town All the clubs have been closed down This place, is coming like a ghost town Bands won't play no more too much fighting on the dance floor Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town? We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown This town, is coming like a ghost town Why must the youth fight against themselves? Government leaving the youth on the shelf This place, is coming like a ghost town No job to be found in this country Can't go on no more The people getting angry This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town[/p][/quote]Best bloody place is bloody bed, With bloody ice on bloody head, You might as well be bloody dead, In bloody Soton (Apologies: The Bloody Orkneys by Cpt Hamish Blair)[/p][/quote]Nice to see the Bloody Orkney poem quoted, but my dad, who served 3 years as an anti-aircraft gunner in Orkney, always said that Cpt Blair pinched most of the verses from lines the soldiers scribled on the loo walls ! Quizbook
  • Score: 1

1:01pm Sat 26 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

Quizbook wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Micle1974 wrote:
This town, is coming like a ghost town
All the clubs have been closed down
This place, is coming like a ghost town
Bands won't play no more
too much fighting on the dance floor

Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town?
We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown

This town, is coming like a ghost town
Why must the youth fight against themselves?
Government leaving the youth on the shelf
This place, is coming like a ghost town
No job to be found in this country
Can't go on no more
The people getting angry

This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
Best bloody place is bloody bed,
With bloody ice on bloody head,
You might as well be bloody dead,
In bloody Soton
(Apologies: The Bloody Orkneys by Cpt Hamish Blair)
Nice to see the Bloody Orkney poem quoted, but my dad, who served 3 years as an anti-aircraft gunner in Orkney, always said that Cpt Blair pinched most of the verses from lines the soldiers scribled on the loo walls !
I used to read it to my children to giggle them off to sleep. Hard to pick the best verse as every one is a gem – like this one –

All bloody clouds, and bloody rains,
No bloody kerbs, no bloody drains,
The Council's got no bloody brains,
In bloody Orkney
[quote][p][bold]Quizbook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: This town, is coming like a ghost town All the clubs have been closed down This place, is coming like a ghost town Bands won't play no more too much fighting on the dance floor Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town? We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown This town, is coming like a ghost town Why must the youth fight against themselves? Government leaving the youth on the shelf This place, is coming like a ghost town No job to be found in this country Can't go on no more The people getting angry This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town[/p][/quote]Best bloody place is bloody bed, With bloody ice on bloody head, You might as well be bloody dead, In bloody Soton (Apologies: The Bloody Orkneys by Cpt Hamish Blair)[/p][/quote]Nice to see the Bloody Orkney poem quoted, but my dad, who served 3 years as an anti-aircraft gunner in Orkney, always said that Cpt Blair pinched most of the verses from lines the soldiers scribled on the loo walls ![/p][/quote]I used to read it to my children to giggle them off to sleep. Hard to pick the best verse as every one is a gem – like this one – All bloody clouds, and bloody rains, No bloody kerbs, no bloody drains, The Council's got no bloody brains, In bloody Orkney good-gosh
  • Score: 3

1:15pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Service-defender says...

I welcome the return of Peacocks :) I was very disappointed when the old store closed as they offered more variety than my local store. (Tisk tisk btw Daily echo. You should of known they closed as you did the report when Poundland took over the premises)

As for Poundworld, that'll be interesting as I've seen the team on tv, and they look like a good firm.

Unfortunately that's the sign of the times at mo, the streets are cluttered with cheap stores but we have ourselves and the public to blame for that.

I work in a well known retail store and in another company before that and I've seen customers hover around you like starving wolves to meat when we're doing those reductions.

Their is actually customers who come in and out each evening searching only for the bargains and they'll try to find out the times we're doing them and come back for the lowest price. We had something for 19p the other day and we still got asked if the item was going down any lower!!!!!!!!!!!
I welcome the return of Peacocks :) I was very disappointed when the old store closed as they offered more variety than my local store. (Tisk tisk btw Daily echo. You should of known they closed as you did the report when Poundland took over the premises) As for Poundworld, that'll be interesting as I've seen the team on tv, and they look like a good firm. Unfortunately that's the sign of the times at mo, the streets are cluttered with cheap stores but we have ourselves and the public to blame for that. I work in a well known retail store and in another company before that and I've seen customers hover around you like starving wolves to meat when we're doing those reductions. Their is actually customers who come in and out each evening searching only for the bargains and they'll try to find out the times we're doing them and come back for the lowest price. We had something for 19p the other day and we still got asked if the item was going down any lower!!!!!!!!!!! Service-defender
  • Score: 1

1:49pm Sat 26 Apr 14

TheMrs35 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Southampton doesn't need a Poundland to do that, it's scummy and full of riff raff like thugs anyway!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Southampton doesn't need a Poundland to do that, it's scummy and full of riff raff like thugs anyway! TheMrs35
  • Score: -5

2:44pm Sat 26 Apr 14

TheMrs35 says...

used to live here, don't anymore, left because the area is a dump, full of criminals who mug people, my husband being one who got mugged, so all you supporters, how do you explain your wonderful town now?
used to live here, don't anymore, left because the area is a dump, full of criminals who mug people, my husband being one who got mugged, so all you supporters, how do you explain your wonderful town now? TheMrs35
  • Score: -10

2:52pm Sat 26 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

TheMrs35 wrote:
used to live here, don't anymore, left because the area is a dump, full of criminals who mug people, my husband being one who got mugged, so all you supporters, how do you explain your wonderful town now?
What a great loss to southampton
[quote][p][bold]TheMrs35[/bold] wrote: used to live here, don't anymore, left because the area is a dump, full of criminals who mug people, my husband being one who got mugged, so all you supporters, how do you explain your wonderful town now?[/p][/quote]What a great loss to southampton elvisimo
  • Score: -3

3:02pm Sat 26 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

bigfella777 wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Saint Botley wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.
My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56.
I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income.
It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.
Anyone with a brain knows that Poundland is actually a rip off and saves you nothing as was proved in the documentary about it. They are the ones who are taking advantage of the poor.
You. Obviously don't have one. Please explain how these evil pound operators are ripping us off. If you are capable of distinguishing between different sizes and able to do some pretty basic maths you can indeed get some great bargains in the pound shops.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.[/p][/quote]My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56. I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income. It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.[/p][/quote]Anyone with a brain knows that Poundland is actually a rip off and saves you nothing as was proved in the documentary about it. They are the ones who are taking advantage of the poor.[/p][/quote]You. Obviously don't have one. Please explain how these evil pound operators are ripping us off. If you are capable of distinguishing between different sizes and able to do some pretty basic maths you can indeed get some great bargains in the pound shops. elvisimo
  • Score: -2

3:11pm Sat 26 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

Why do they keep using the word 'flagship' so much?
Why do they keep using the word 'flagship' so much? 03alpe01
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Sat 26 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Why do they keep using the word 'flagship' so much?
I actually agree. It's a big secondary store right at the back of a tired second tier half empty shopping centre.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Why do they keep using the word 'flagship' so much?[/p][/quote]I actually agree. It's a big secondary store right at the back of a tired second tier half empty shopping centre. elvisimo
  • Score: 3

3:22pm Sat 26 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

elvisimo wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Why do they keep using the word 'flagship' so much?
I actually agree. It's a big secondary store right at the back of a tired second tier half empty shopping centre.
And it was actually a half decent shop. But not 'flagship' status
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Why do they keep using the word 'flagship' so much?[/p][/quote]I actually agree. It's a big secondary store right at the back of a tired second tier half empty shopping centre.[/p][/quote]And it was actually a half decent shop. But not 'flagship' status 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

3:48pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Mary80 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Uh excuse me? Riff raff don't go to Poundland or Lidl i go to these places because its cheap don't dare tar all of us with the same brush thanks
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Uh excuse me? Riff raff don't go to Poundland or Lidl i go to these places because its cheap don't dare tar all of us with the same brush thanks Mary80
  • Score: 4

3:57pm Sat 26 Apr 14

4abettersouthampton says...

What should go there ? Suggestions people
What should go there ? Suggestions people 4abettersouthampton
  • Score: 1

3:57pm Sat 26 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

Stan1st wrote:
Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.
Totally agree
[quote][p][bold]Stan1st[/bold] wrote: Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.[/p][/quote]Totally agree 1batty10
  • Score: 3

4:21pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

1batty10 wrote:
Stan1st wrote:
Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.
Totally agree
break out the wrecking ball all over the city centre.
[quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stan1st[/bold] wrote: Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.[/p][/quote]Totally agree[/p][/quote]break out the wrecking ball all over the city centre. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 3

4:31pm Sat 26 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
Seed

Who is 'Southampton'?
I suppose you mean the Council?
In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop.
It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents.
We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks
Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now.

Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices.

The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.
A reasoned response
As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment).
I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city.
Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton.
Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester?
Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked
I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.[/p][/quote]Seed Who is 'Southampton'? I suppose you mean the Council? In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop. It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents. We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks[/p][/quote]Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now. Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices. The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.[/p][/quote]A reasoned response As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment). I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city. Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton. Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester? Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example) phil maccavity
  • Score: 3

4:54pm Sat 26 Apr 14

wwozzer says...

Major city centre store? I forgot they were still there! Actually I usually forget the Marlands still exists.

Who cares what goes in there next as long as it's giving people work.
Major city centre store? I forgot they were still there! Actually I usually forget the Marlands still exists. Who cares what goes in there next as long as it's giving people work. wwozzer
  • Score: 3

5:07pm Sat 26 Apr 14

southy says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
Seed

Who is 'Southampton'?
I suppose you mean the Council?
In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop.
It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents.
We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks
Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now.

Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices.

The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.
A reasoned response
As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment).
I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city.
Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton.
Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester?
Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked
I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)
Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.[/p][/quote]Seed Who is 'Southampton'? I suppose you mean the Council? In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop. It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents. We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks[/p][/quote]Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now. Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices. The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.[/p][/quote]A reasoned response As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment). I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city. Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton. Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester? Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)[/p][/quote]Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station southy
  • Score: -7

6:09pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Patch2407 says...

I think it's amazing how one sided the article is and how most of what is written is a complete load of rubbish. But I think that the best part is how inconsiderate the people commenting are by completely forgetting about all the people who are now having to find new jobs. Shouldn't that be the most concerning thing about matalan closing, not what will be there after.
I think it's amazing how one sided the article is and how most of what is written is a complete load of rubbish. But I think that the best part is how inconsiderate the people commenting are by completely forgetting about all the people who are now having to find new jobs. Shouldn't that be the most concerning thing about matalan closing, not what will be there after. Patch2407
  • Score: 9

6:33pm Sat 26 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

southy wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
Seed

Who is 'Southampton'?
I suppose you mean the Council?
In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop.
It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents.
We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks
Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now.

Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices.

The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.
A reasoned response
As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment).
I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city.
Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton.
Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester?
Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked
I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)
Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station
Southy
I am sure that happens occasionally as it does in every town/city
However in the City Congestion Index published last year, Southampton didn't register in the top 10
List was:
Belfast
Bristol
Brighton
Edinburgh
London
Leeds/Bradford
Manchester
Leicester
Sheffield
Liverpool
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.[/p][/quote]Seed Who is 'Southampton'? I suppose you mean the Council? In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop. It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents. We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks[/p][/quote]Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now. Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices. The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.[/p][/quote]A reasoned response As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment). I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city. Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton. Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester? Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)[/p][/quote]Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station[/p][/quote]Southy I am sure that happens occasionally as it does in every town/city However in the City Congestion Index published last year, Southampton didn't register in the top 10 List was: Belfast Bristol Brighton Edinburgh London Leeds/Bradford Manchester Leicester Sheffield Liverpool phil maccavity
  • Score: 6

6:45pm Sat 26 Apr 14

boilerman says...

Saint Botley wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.
Our city is turning into a shith@le, the precinct on a weekend is a tatty noisy dump.visited Bournemouth last week and that is turning into the same, both councils need to act soon to stop the decline.,
[quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.[/p][/quote]Our city is turning into a shith@le, the precinct on a weekend is a tatty noisy dump.visited Bournemouth last week and that is turning into the same, both councils need to act soon to stop the decline., boilerman
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Sat 26 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

What would be nice is to see a good brand name upon entering the City Centre.

I'd be happy with Asda moving and having two floors rather then them have buckets to catch the water.
What would be nice is to see a good brand name upon entering the City Centre. I'd be happy with Asda moving and having two floors rather then them have buckets to catch the water. IronLady2010
  • Score: 6

7:12pm Sat 26 Apr 14

snoozer-t says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Agree, Filling a a city out with loads of poundlounds etc doesnt help anyone. dont mind having a few but it does nothing for the town just look at Totton or Waterlooville . I wanna see some big decent sport ware houses or some or music shops like sound control that used to be near east street.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Agree, Filling a a city out with loads of poundlounds etc doesnt help anyone. dont mind having a few but it does nothing for the town just look at Totton or Waterlooville . I wanna see some big decent sport ware houses or some or music shops like sound control that used to be near east street. snoozer-t
  • Score: 1

7:19pm Sat 26 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

snoozer-t wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Agree, Filling a a city out with loads of poundlounds etc doesnt help anyone. dont mind having a few but it does nothing for the town just look at Totton or Waterlooville . I wanna see some big decent sport ware houses or some or music shops like sound control that used to be near east street.
Am assuming your post was tongue in cheek.

Southampton has all the sports shops, you can clearly see this when you walk the streets. How many more do you want?

I'd rather we had less sports shops so the fat, football wearing, tracksuit chavs go elsewhere, but that's my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]snoozer-t[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Agree, Filling a a city out with loads of poundlounds etc doesnt help anyone. dont mind having a few but it does nothing for the town just look at Totton or Waterlooville . I wanna see some big decent sport ware houses or some or music shops like sound control that used to be near east street.[/p][/quote]Am assuming your post was tongue in cheek. Southampton has all the sports shops, you can clearly see this when you walk the streets. How many more do you want? I'd rather we had less sports shops so the fat, football wearing, tracksuit chavs go elsewhere, but that's my opinion. IronLady2010
  • Score: 5

8:21pm Sat 26 Apr 14

pinkdolph says...

"both Peacocks and Poundworld are great retailers and will offer yet more reasons for shoppers to visit the Marlands"

I think its the other way round.
"both Peacocks and Poundworld are great retailers and will offer yet more reasons for shoppers to visit the Marlands" I think its the other way round. pinkdolph
  • Score: 3

9:40pm Sat 26 Apr 14

derek james says...

The_Fuzz22 wrote:
derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.
per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are
1 qatar
2 lux
3 singap
4 norway
5hong kong
6 brunei
7usa
8uae
9switz
10 kuw
lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22
norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk
when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek!
[quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu[/p][/quote]Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.[/p][/quote]per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek! derek james
  • Score: -3

10:58pm Sat 26 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

Bobs Your Uncle ? wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Stan1st wrote:
Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.
Totally agree
break out the wrecking ball all over the city centre.
Nice one
[quote][p][bold]Bobs Your Uncle ?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stan1st[/bold] wrote: Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.[/p][/quote]Totally agree[/p][/quote]break out the wrecking ball all over the city centre.[/p][/quote]Nice one 1batty10
  • Score: -2

2:40am Sun 27 Apr 14

TheMrs35 says...

Mary80 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Uh excuse me? Riff raff don't go to Poundland or Lidl i go to these places because its cheap don't dare tar all of us with the same brush thanks
Commoners shop in pound shops Mary because they can't afford to go in proper shops, you are obviously one of them, like everyone in that dungheap town
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Uh excuse me? Riff raff don't go to Poundland or Lidl i go to these places because its cheap don't dare tar all of us with the same brush thanks[/p][/quote]Commoners shop in pound shops Mary because they can't afford to go in proper shops, you are obviously one of them, like everyone in that dungheap town TheMrs35
  • Score: -6

7:06am Sun 27 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

TheMrs35 wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Uh excuse me? Riff raff don't go to Poundland or Lidl i go to these places because its cheap don't dare tar all of us with the same brush thanks
Commoners shop in pound shops Mary because they can't afford to go in proper shops, you are obviously one of them, like everyone in that dungheap town
Tad too much whit lightening cider by that time perhaps? Little too much time on your hands? A little lonely perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]TheMrs35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Uh excuse me? Riff raff don't go to Poundland or Lidl i go to these places because its cheap don't dare tar all of us with the same brush thanks[/p][/quote]Commoners shop in pound shops Mary because they can't afford to go in proper shops, you are obviously one of them, like everyone in that dungheap town[/p][/quote]Tad too much whit lightening cider by that time perhaps? Little too much time on your hands? A little lonely perhaps? elvisimo
  • Score: 0

7:12am Sun 27 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

S Pance wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
Thanks for that racist comment!
So where was that being racist???

Towards the baby boom??? Can't be... or that's being racist against people having sex!
Towards immigration??? No, immigration needed to be controlled but it was opened up and a huge influx happened... nothing to do with colour or religion or sexual preference or how they dress.
Scottish dad's army actors??? Surely not... Don't tell 'um your name Pike

I left (ex-great) Britain after serving in the Queens military for years, I then came to work for the Norwegian Air Force and I saw that the lifestyle here is wonderful, peaceful, stunning and it was the best move I ever did.

I will never live back there and tell people to visit, see the history of a once "great" island... but don't live there...

I am slightly racist... I am racist again idiots like you name calling and being a complete dic*
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]Thanks for that racist comment![/p][/quote]So where was that being racist??? Towards the baby boom??? Can't be... or that's being racist against people having sex! Towards immigration??? No, immigration needed to be controlled but it was opened up and a huge influx happened... nothing to do with colour or religion or sexual preference or how they dress. Scottish dad's army actors??? Surely not... Don't tell 'um your name Pike I left (ex-great) Britain after serving in the Queens military for years, I then came to work for the Norwegian Air Force and I saw that the lifestyle here is wonderful, peaceful, stunning and it was the best move I ever did. I will never live back there and tell people to visit, see the history of a once "great" island... but don't live there... I am slightly racist... I am racist again idiots like you name calling and being a complete dic* Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 8

8:02am Sun 27 Apr 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

George4th wrote:
Stan1st wrote:
Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.
For Southampton to be a success you will need at least 20 years WITHOUT a Labour Council.............

.................

(While Unionism and the Labour party remain in control of Southampton, the City will keep going backwards! How do you expect to attract the well educated young, the entrepreneurs and the talented people if there is nothing here for them? If it wasn't for the Universities, the NHS and other Public Sector bodies, this would be a ghost town!)
The decline in the City's fortunes beginning at the turn of the millennium took place during a decade when Labour wasn't in control of the City Council. A minority Lib Dem administration followed by the Tories almost brought this great city to its knees.

Since 2012 things have started to look up in terms of the economic fortunes of the city. The big cloud on the horizon, though, is the government's continued obsession with austerity (well at least for most of us). Starving the Council, the local NHS and our two universities (which probably account for 40% of local employment) of public spending is no good for the City's economy.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stan1st[/bold] wrote: Southampton city centre as a shopping experience was ruined when West Quay stage one was built, , ocean village , town quay, east street, bar gate, marlands, and how much longer can Debenhams survive down the dump that was once East street. Who on earth would want to visit our city when a few miles up the road , Winchester, Salisbury and for Christ sake even Portsmouth offer a far better experience. Only mass demolition and clever planning utilising our waterfront can save the city center.[/p][/quote]For Southampton to be a success you will need at least 20 years WITHOUT a Labour Council............. ................. (While Unionism and the Labour party remain in control of Southampton, the City will keep going backwards! How do you expect to attract the well educated young, the entrepreneurs and the talented people if there is nothing here for them? If it wasn't for the Universities, the NHS and other Public Sector bodies, this would be a ghost town!)[/p][/quote]The decline in the City's fortunes beginning at the turn of the millennium took place during a decade when Labour wasn't in control of the City Council. A minority Lib Dem administration followed by the Tories almost brought this great city to its knees. Since 2012 things have started to look up in terms of the economic fortunes of the city. The big cloud on the horizon, though, is the government's continued obsession with austerity (well at least for most of us). Starving the Council, the local NHS and our two universities (which probably account for 40% of local employment) of public spending is no good for the City's economy. FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: -3

9:22am Sun 27 Apr 14

forest hump says...

derek james wrote:
The_Fuzz22 wrote:
derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.
per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are
1 qatar
2 lux
3 singap
4 norway
5hong kong
6 brunei
7usa
8uae
9switz
10 kuw
lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22
norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk
when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek!
Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu[/p][/quote]Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.[/p][/quote]per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek![/p][/quote]Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper. forest hump
  • Score: 7

10:11am Sun 27 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

forest hump wrote:
derek james wrote:
The_Fuzz22 wrote:
derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.
per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek!
Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.
Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU.

We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-)

Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit?
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu[/p][/quote]Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.[/p][/quote]per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek![/p][/quote]Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.[/p][/quote]Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU. We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-) Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 3

12:01pm Sun 27 Apr 14

derek james says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
forest hump wrote:
derek james wrote:
The_Fuzz22 wrote:
derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.
per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek!
Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.
Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU.

We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-)

Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit?
i would imagine entry requirements to those two countries are pretty are pretty high as well unlike the uk. interestingly switzerland did have a few altercations with the luftwaffe over incursions into their airspace (both airforces had the me109) and was actually bombed a few times by the americans (by mistake) and at the end of the war had one of the largest "airforces" in the world as allied and german aircraft that flew over swiss territory were forced to land
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu[/p][/quote]Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.[/p][/quote]per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek![/p][/quote]Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.[/p][/quote]Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU. We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-) Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit?[/p][/quote]i would imagine entry requirements to those two countries are pretty are pretty high as well unlike the uk. interestingly switzerland did have a few altercations with the luftwaffe over incursions into their airspace (both airforces had the me109) and was actually bombed a few times by the americans (by mistake) and at the end of the war had one of the largest "airforces" in the world as allied and german aircraft that flew over swiss territory were forced to land derek james
  • Score: 2

12:14pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
forest hump wrote:
derek james wrote:
The_Fuzz22 wrote:
derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.
per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek!
Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.
Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU. We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-) Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit?
i would imagine entry requirements to those two countries are pretty are pretty high as well unlike the uk. interestingly switzerland did have a few altercations with the luftwaffe over incursions into their airspace (both airforces had the me109) and was actually bombed a few times by the americans (by mistake) and at the end of the war had one of the largest "airforces" in the world as allied and german aircraft that flew over swiss territory were forced to land
Derek... it is quite easy to get residence here. Find a job (via a site called Finn.no is best) and then it is pretty easy. A pint might cost a tenner but minimum wage is £15 per hour. I came over in 2007... I promise I won't be back. :-)
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu[/p][/quote]Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.[/p][/quote]per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek![/p][/quote]Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.[/p][/quote]Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU. We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-) Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit?[/p][/quote]i would imagine entry requirements to those two countries are pretty are pretty high as well unlike the uk. interestingly switzerland did have a few altercations with the luftwaffe over incursions into their airspace (both airforces had the me109) and was actually bombed a few times by the americans (by mistake) and at the end of the war had one of the largest "airforces" in the world as allied and german aircraft that flew over swiss territory were forced to land[/p][/quote]Derek... it is quite easy to get residence here. Find a job (via a site called Finn.no is best) and then it is pretty easy. A pint might cost a tenner but minimum wage is £15 per hour. I came over in 2007... I promise I won't be back. :-) Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 3

12:40pm Sun 27 Apr 14

southy says...

phil maccavity wrote:
southy wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
Seed

Who is 'Southampton'?
I suppose you mean the Council?
In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop.
It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents.
We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks
Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now.

Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices.

The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.
A reasoned response
As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment).
I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city.
Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton.
Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester?
Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked
I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)
Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station
Southy
I am sure that happens occasionally as it does in every town/city
However in the City Congestion Index published last year, Southampton didn't register in the top 10
List was:
Belfast
Bristol
Brighton
Edinburgh
London
Leeds/Bradford
Manchester
Leicester
Sheffield
Liverpool
No I know it did not, but then it seldom do register in any lists of any sorts accepts for the ones that it gets put forward for, one of the worse city,s I been to for traffic jams was Birmingham but that was some years ago I was last in that area.
But the traffic on the shore roads started to really bad when they finished building Asda's, at one time I could leave here be at dock gate 4 in 10 mins now it takes close to a hour to do, its got to the state where it would be quicker to drive to the end of Shirley park up and walk rest of the way.
The problem is where they have shoved every thing down the bottom of town instead off placing them in other shopping areas.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.[/p][/quote]Seed Who is 'Southampton'? I suppose you mean the Council? In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop. It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents. We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks[/p][/quote]Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now. Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices. The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.[/p][/quote]A reasoned response As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment). I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city. Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton. Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester? Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)[/p][/quote]Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station[/p][/quote]Southy I am sure that happens occasionally as it does in every town/city However in the City Congestion Index published last year, Southampton didn't register in the top 10 List was: Belfast Bristol Brighton Edinburgh London Leeds/Bradford Manchester Leicester Sheffield Liverpool[/p][/quote]No I know it did not, but then it seldom do register in any lists of any sorts accepts for the ones that it gets put forward for, one of the worse city,s I been to for traffic jams was Birmingham but that was some years ago I was last in that area. But the traffic on the shore roads started to really bad when they finished building Asda's, at one time I could leave here be at dock gate 4 in 10 mins now it takes close to a hour to do, its got to the state where it would be quicker to drive to the end of Shirley park up and walk rest of the way. The problem is where they have shoved every thing down the bottom of town instead off placing them in other shopping areas. southy
  • Score: -4

1:06pm Sun 27 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

4abettersouthampton wrote:
What should go there ? Suggestions people
Well I suppose long term what will happen is it will turn into another Above Bar street/Bargate and all the retail units will empty out due to West Quay and West Quay 3. So the 'flagship retail units' will be replaced by 'flagship flats'. Just a guess though.
[quote][p][bold]4abettersouthampton[/bold] wrote: What should go there ? Suggestions people[/p][/quote]Well I suppose long term what will happen is it will turn into another Above Bar street/Bargate and all the retail units will empty out due to West Quay and West Quay 3. So the 'flagship retail units' will be replaced by 'flagship flats'. Just a guess though. 03alpe01
  • Score: 3

6:02pm Sun 27 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

southy wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
southy wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.
Seed

Who is 'Southampton'?
I suppose you mean the Council?
In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop.
It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents.
We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks
Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now.

Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices.

The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.
A reasoned response
As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment).
I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city.
Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton.
Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester?
Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked
I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)
Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station
Southy
I am sure that happens occasionally as it does in every town/city
However in the City Congestion Index published last year, Southampton didn't register in the top 10
List was:
Belfast
Bristol
Brighton
Edinburgh
London
Leeds/Bradford
Manchester
Leicester
Sheffield
Liverpool
No I know it did not, but then it seldom do register in any lists of any sorts accepts for the ones that it gets put forward for, one of the worse city,s I been to for traffic jams was Birmingham but that was some years ago I was last in that area.
But the traffic on the shore roads started to really bad when they finished building Asda's, at one time I could leave here be at dock gate 4 in 10 mins now it takes close to a hour to do, its got to the state where it would be quicker to drive to the end of Shirley park up and walk rest of the way.
The problem is where they have shoved every thing down the bottom of town instead off placing them in other shopping areas.
Southy
An hour to get from Millbrook to Canute Rd on a regular basis?
I really doubt that
On Saturday (one of the busiest shopping days and with 2 cruise ships in port and a home football match) I drove from the western outskirts of Soton into Ocean Village in 20 mins.
Today I did it in 10 mins
It is less than 3 miles from your house to Canute Rd.
It would take you an hour at average walking speed to walk the journey, keep yourself fit, save money and help the environment.
Give it a go!!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It's about balance. Of course there should be pound shops and matalans but also boutique shops too. Broken up with coffee shops, restaurants and bars. I think Southampton has got the balance very wrong.[/p][/quote]Seed Who is 'Southampton'? I suppose you mean the Council? In reality it is a mixture of retailers wishing to take a risk with their investment to make a profit and us, as consumers, deciding where to shop. It may well be that the Council would like a greater mix of retail but their main objective is to fill available retail space to obtain Business Rates revenue to provide for basic services to city residents. We, as consumers, don't help much as we increasing look to buy on line and use out of town retail parks[/p][/quote]Yes individual retailers will look at individual premises and decide whether they can make a profit or not. But the council have to decide whether several retailers of the same ilk all in close proximity to each other will create the right mix. Europe is full of cities with the right mix which creates the right ambience to attract people in and away from online shopping, it's not difficult. The council need to maximise revenue over the long term not just here and now. Out of town suits large retailers of a certain type. Putting Ikea in town was one of the worse decisions I have every seen. You go in your car, you spend some time there, you take away your flat pack without visiting any other stores. Why on earth would you put it in town adding to the congestion? Nursling or Hedge were the obvious choices. The council have failed by having disjointed development over many years. There has been no plan, no vision and it now shows.[/p][/quote]A reasoned response As far as I aware there were other cities in this area Portsmouth in particular that were lobbying for Ikea to be sited in their city as they would do with any of the big retailers as they bring direct income into the city(via business rates and employment). I disagree with you and suggest a reasonable amount of visitors to Ikea may also decide to shop elsewhere in the city. Not sure if the figures remain relevant now but in the early year or so of Ikea approx. 45% of visitors were from locations outside of Soton. Why would our Council try to encourage Ikea to Nursling (part of which is Test Valley) and Hedge End (which I think is Winchester? Also a lot of people take a couple of traffic issues (albeit major ones but caused primarily by roadworks) and then say the city's roads are permanently gridlocked I travel quite extensively and believe me Southampton is not as bad as many large urban areas (nearby Portsmouth and Gosport are worse, for example)[/p][/quote]Phil there as been times when there been no road works and the traffic jam as stretch from the north east corner of Queens park right the way back to the new police station[/p][/quote]Southy I am sure that happens occasionally as it does in every town/city However in the City Congestion Index published last year, Southampton didn't register in the top 10 List was: Belfast Bristol Brighton Edinburgh London Leeds/Bradford Manchester Leicester Sheffield Liverpool[/p][/quote]No I know it did not, but then it seldom do register in any lists of any sorts accepts for the ones that it gets put forward for, one of the worse city,s I been to for traffic jams was Birmingham but that was some years ago I was last in that area. But the traffic on the shore roads started to really bad when they finished building Asda's, at one time I could leave here be at dock gate 4 in 10 mins now it takes close to a hour to do, its got to the state where it would be quicker to drive to the end of Shirley park up and walk rest of the way. The problem is where they have shoved every thing down the bottom of town instead off placing them in other shopping areas.[/p][/quote]Southy An hour to get from Millbrook to Canute Rd on a regular basis? I really doubt that On Saturday (one of the busiest shopping days and with 2 cruise ships in port and a home football match) I drove from the western outskirts of Soton into Ocean Village in 20 mins. Today I did it in 10 mins It is less than 3 miles from your house to Canute Rd. It would take you an hour at average walking speed to walk the journey, keep yourself fit, save money and help the environment. Give it a go!! phil maccavity
  • Score: 4

9:32pm Sun 27 Apr 14

derek james says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
forest hump wrote:
derek james wrote:
The_Fuzz22 wrote:
derek james wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu
Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.
per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek!
Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.
Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU. We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-) Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit?
i would imagine entry requirements to those two countries are pretty are pretty high as well unlike the uk. interestingly switzerland did have a few altercations with the luftwaffe over incursions into their airspace (both airforces had the me109) and was actually bombed a few times by the americans (by mistake) and at the end of the war had one of the largest "airforces" in the world as allied and german aircraft that flew over swiss territory were forced to land
Derek... it is quite easy to get residence here. Find a job (via a site called Finn.no is best) and then it is pretty easy. A pint might cost a tenner but minimum wage is £15 per hour. I came over in 2007... I promise I won't be back. :-)
if i was a bit younger i would but at 57 it's a bit late, i do agree with you this country has become the dustbin of the world with the lefties in control (no doubt someone will flag that as a racist comment!) and i can't see a way out
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]it's no coincidence the richest countries in europe,norway and switzerland are'nt in the eu[/p][/quote]Switzerland has been crippled by a very poor exchange rate for several years now and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Please educate yourself before spouting this Faragean ****.[/p][/quote]per capita gdp the ten wealthiest countries in the world are 1 qatar 2 lux 3 singap 4 norway 5hong kong 6 brunei 7usa 8uae 9switz 10 kuw lux is in there but is more a city than a country and recieves a lot of eu aid even though it's one of the richest countries in the eu. the uk makes it in at about 21 or 22 norway and swiss don't have to pay a penny for eu membership yet have more say over trade agreements than the uk when you've grown up and seen the real world you might be as wise as your uncle derek![/p][/quote]Exactly right. Both Norway and Switzerland do not need to tolerate the EU nonsense. It was originally a "common market" (which we had already through EFTA) it is now trying to shape our laws! EU is bleeding this country dry. The sooner people see it as nothing more than a gravy train for ex MPs the better. It is no coincidence that Hitler left the Swiss alone in 1939. The EU will never coax people of Norway or Switzerland. They will continue to prosper.[/p][/quote]Totally agree... thank God (Odin over here) that Norway saw sense and never joined the EU. We might be paying £10 a pint here but I have never been happier! (The beautiful ladies also help!) It is tough writing this while looking out of my window across the fjord and mountains with hardly anybody around... but I will manage ;-) Norway would ask us if we wanted to be run by Europe.... did Blair ask the people before signing it over bit by bit?[/p][/quote]i would imagine entry requirements to those two countries are pretty are pretty high as well unlike the uk. interestingly switzerland did have a few altercations with the luftwaffe over incursions into their airspace (both airforces had the me109) and was actually bombed a few times by the americans (by mistake) and at the end of the war had one of the largest "airforces" in the world as allied and german aircraft that flew over swiss territory were forced to land[/p][/quote]Derek... it is quite easy to get residence here. Find a job (via a site called Finn.no is best) and then it is pretty easy. A pint might cost a tenner but minimum wage is £15 per hour. I came over in 2007... I promise I won't be back. :-)[/p][/quote]if i was a bit younger i would but at 57 it's a bit late, i do agree with you this country has become the dustbin of the world with the lefties in control (no doubt someone will flag that as a racist comment!) and i can't see a way out derek james
  • Score: 2

5:34am Mon 28 Apr 14

skeptik says...

Comments and wishes - will change nothing. We are in a new age of change which is beginning to accelerate. In overall terms online shopping is small (ish), yet growing fast. Predictions of the automated office which will take more business from high rateable properties on the high street. How many years are we away from buying car insurance where a data base interface will interrogate me and know my health and financial status, making appointments and much more without the need for offices or staff to man them. A recent ITV programme suggested a drop in office employment of some 36% within ten years and more to come. In the 1960s as a young apprentice we saw the lines of machines taken out and replaced by what was then rudimentary automation, time marches on, the white collar world is now heading towards a far more advanced level of technology. It cannot be stopped, what we need is folk with ideas on how we are going to employ so many people. When reading comments about the unemployed or low paid - often by people in jobs they believe are secure - time will modify views when they stop talking of make
'them' take no contract low paid jobs and realize it will be make 'us'. There will be as many ideas as there are people - but even now it is late (as usual) to be planning for this which will come to all whatever political views they have.
Comments and wishes - will change nothing. We are in a new age of change which is beginning to accelerate. In overall terms online shopping is small (ish), yet growing fast. Predictions of the automated office which will take more business from high rateable properties on the high street. How many years are we away from buying car insurance where a data base interface will interrogate me and know my health and financial status, making appointments and much more without the need for offices or staff to man them. A recent ITV programme suggested a drop in office employment of some 36% within ten years and more to come. In the 1960s as a young apprentice we saw the lines of machines taken out and replaced by what was then rudimentary automation, time marches on, the white collar world is now heading towards a far more advanced level of technology. It cannot be stopped, what we need is folk with ideas on how we are going to employ so many people. When reading comments about the unemployed or low paid - often by people in jobs they believe are secure - time will modify views when they stop talking of make 'them' take no contract low paid jobs and realize it will be make 'us'. There will be as many ideas as there are people - but even now it is late (as usual) to be planning for this which will come to all whatever political views they have. skeptik
  • Score: 0

6:41am Mon 28 Apr 14

Kirsty666 says...

So you have WestQuay which is full of over priced stores followed by the Marlands that only has matalan as a good store the rest are clothes stores poundland a pawnbroker and savers southampton is turning into Shirley/portswood oh well Portsmouth for shopping in the future then....
So you have WestQuay which is full of over priced stores followed by the Marlands that only has matalan as a good store the rest are clothes stores poundland a pawnbroker and savers southampton is turning into Shirley/portswood oh well Portsmouth for shopping in the future then.... Kirsty666
  • Score: -3

7:56am Mon 28 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart.
I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too!

Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can.
In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army....
"we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"
I don't know why you dropped the 'Great' years ago. It's purely a geographic term, nothing to do with implied quality. What you've done has about as much meaning as dropping the 'of' from Isle of Wight.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Sad to see the Old Southampton center falling apart. I worked on building this store back in 1989 when it was the Irish Marks n Sparks (Dunnes stores), all the Irish guys were half cut in the mornings!... come to think of it... in the afternoon too! Britain (dropped the Great years ago) is struggling to keep up with the birth and immigration rates soaring. Each time I come back I see more sad events happening, so my advise... get out while you can. In the immortal word of the old Scot in Dads army.... "we're dooooomed... we are all doooomed"[/p][/quote]I don't know why you dropped the 'Great' years ago. It's purely a geographic term, nothing to do with implied quality. What you've done has about as much meaning as dropping the 'of' from Isle of Wight. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 0

11:07am Mon 28 Apr 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

I don't like the sound of Poundland appearing in the main entrance to the Marlands opposite the Clock Tower. This road is set to be pedestrianized in the future to link up Guildhall square and increase the type of clientele to the area. Not with a Poundland there. This is just going to downgrade the city centre rather than increase it.

Why can't the Marlands do something different inside. It is really nice inside but if the outside stores don't attract people what good do the ones inside have? I would have gone after a House of Fraser type of store.
I don't like the sound of Poundland appearing in the main entrance to the Marlands opposite the Clock Tower. This road is set to be pedestrianized in the future to link up Guildhall square and increase the type of clientele to the area. Not with a Poundland there. This is just going to downgrade the city centre rather than increase it. Why can't the Marlands do something different inside. It is really nice inside but if the outside stores don't attract people what good do the ones inside have? I would have gone after a House of Fraser type of store. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 2

12:51pm Mon 28 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
I don't like the sound of Poundland appearing in the main entrance to the Marlands opposite the Clock Tower. This road is set to be pedestrianized in the future to link up Guildhall square and increase the type of clientele to the area. Not with a Poundland there. This is just going to downgrade the city centre rather than increase it.

Why can't the Marlands do something different inside. It is really nice inside but if the outside stores don't attract people what good do the ones inside have? I would have gone after a House of Fraser type of store.
Plus I'm amazed nobody has mentioned this before, but isn't there already a Poundland already in the Marlands? So would they move over into Matalan and leave their current unit empty?
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: I don't like the sound of Poundland appearing in the main entrance to the Marlands opposite the Clock Tower. This road is set to be pedestrianized in the future to link up Guildhall square and increase the type of clientele to the area. Not with a Poundland there. This is just going to downgrade the city centre rather than increase it. Why can't the Marlands do something different inside. It is really nice inside but if the outside stores don't attract people what good do the ones inside have? I would have gone after a House of Fraser type of store.[/p][/quote]Plus I'm amazed nobody has mentioned this before, but isn't there already a Poundland already in the Marlands? So would they move over into Matalan and leave their current unit empty? 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Mon 28 Apr 14

ShakeyWiffles says...

lindseyloo22 wrote:
So very disappointed I like matalan another pound shop so we will have three pound shops in Southampton! Doesn't look good really does it. Southamptons only attraction is west quay and let's face it that isn't great. A real shame
There aren't actually three...............
.....one's a 99p store ;)
[quote][p][bold]lindseyloo22[/bold] wrote: So very disappointed I like matalan another pound shop so we will have three pound shops in Southampton! Doesn't look good really does it. Southamptons only attraction is west quay and let's face it that isn't great. A real shame[/p][/quote]There aren't actually three............... .....one's a 99p store ;) ShakeyWiffles
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Thu 1 May 14

Hastagger says...

The place went downhill when they put the fence store (sorry mean cash converter type shop) in there. The place was full up with pregnant teenagers and men in tracksuits. Felt like being in Pompey... still could be worse, they could put a polish shop there - lolz. #trends
The place went downhill when they put the fence store (sorry mean cash converter type shop) in there. The place was full up with pregnant teenagers and men in tracksuits. Felt like being in Pompey... still could be worse, they could put a polish shop there - lolz. #trends Hastagger
  • Score: 0

3:04pm Fri 2 May 14

Laura94 says...

For me it will be weird not having Matalan there, having worked there before. But I agree we don't really need another pound land store, not because of everyones association with it but because there are stores for £1 or 99p in existence. I think some of you are forgetting the student aspect to southampton. I like the marlands very much so, I hate west quay... very few good shops in west quay that aren't overpriced and walking through it is hell. Peacocks coming back will be nice, not overpriced but not cheap.
I think Disney store should move in and have GIANT disney store for all our disney needs :P
For me it will be weird not having Matalan there, having worked there before. But I agree we don't really need another pound land store, not because of everyones association with it but because there are stores for £1 or 99p in existence. I think some of you are forgetting the student aspect to southampton. I like the marlands very much so, I hate west quay... very few good shops in west quay that aren't overpriced and walking through it is hell. Peacocks coming back will be nice, not overpriced but not cheap. I think Disney store should move in and have GIANT disney store for all our disney needs :P Laura94
  • Score: 3

11:26pm Fri 2 May 14

Dave Of The South says...

Matalan attracts the same type of chavvy shoppers as Peacocks. Not much of a loss there. Poundworld is not Poundland. Maybe we could get an Iceland too!?
Matalan attracts the same type of chavvy shoppers as Peacocks. Not much of a loss there. Poundworld is not Poundland. Maybe we could get an Iceland too!? Dave Of The South
  • Score: -1

7:10pm Tue 6 May 14

WoolstonSean says...

learned more from a 2 minute record than ever learned in school wrote:
Southampton city centre is a dreadful plave ,Why on earth do the cruise ships want to stay here docking ! Move them to Liverpool
Southampton is a major cruise port because of its geographical location and not based on its shopping, and by the way the crews of those cruise ships absolutely love Southampton for its shopping compared to other UK ports, I know this for a fact as I work in the port and see how much they take back on board, same with a lot of passengers who regularly make last minute purchases in West Quay!
[quote][p][bold]learned more from a 2 minute record than ever learned in school[/bold] wrote: Southampton city centre is a dreadful plave ,Why on earth do the cruise ships want to stay here docking ! Move them to Liverpool[/p][/quote]Southampton is a major cruise port because of its geographical location and not based on its shopping, and by the way the crews of those cruise ships absolutely love Southampton for its shopping compared to other UK ports, I know this for a fact as I work in the port and see how much they take back on board, same with a lot of passengers who regularly make last minute purchases in West Quay! WoolstonSean
  • Score: 1

9:50am Mon 12 May 14

xxsushixx says...

Okay so another poundland maybe a bit excessive but hey ho if they have the money to invest and put another shop there then so be it.
Would you rather that or for it to be another abandoned shop?
I know what Id prefer.
Okay so another poundland maybe a bit excessive but hey ho if they have the money to invest and put another shop there then so be it. Would you rather that or for it to be another abandoned shop? I know what Id prefer. xxsushixx
  • Score: 0

12:19pm Fri 16 May 14

jofabulous says...

bigfella777 wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Saint Botley wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff
Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.
My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56.
I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income.
It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.
Anyone with a brain knows that Poundland is actually a rip off and saves you nothing as was proved in the documentary about it. They are the ones who are taking advantage of the poor.
It's not a rip off if you stick to only the items you need.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Not another poundland. It makes the city look scummy and attracts riff raff[/p][/quote]Yeah, opposite the Civic, on an important junction and the main access point to the station. Putting a Poundworld there would be akin to sticking up a massive flag saying 'Our City is a sh!thole'.[/p][/quote]My father fought through the Second World War from 1939-1945 spent in trenches from North Africa to Italy and the rest of Europe in the belief he was making the world a better place for EVERYBODY. Those six years combined with his occupation (he was a dustman) took a terrible toll on his health which finally incapacitated him for eight years prior to his death at 56. I only tell you this to let you know how offensive and obscene I find you and your ilk with remarks such as "scummy, riff-raff " making "Our City " a sh'thole". I am ashamed to be associated with a city that cares nothing for others that are not so fortunate as themselves who need shops like Poundworld, Aldi etc to survive on their meager income. It is people with an attitude such as yours that is making Southampton the sh'ithole capital of England.[/p][/quote]Anyone with a brain knows that Poundland is actually a rip off and saves you nothing as was proved in the documentary about it. They are the ones who are taking advantage of the poor.[/p][/quote]It's not a rip off if you stick to only the items you need. jofabulous
  • Score: 0

12:28pm Fri 16 May 14

jofabulous says...

I think a House of Fraser or something along those lines would be good. I've moved to Swindon and we have a House of Fraser outlet store and you can find some rather lovely items.
I think a House of Fraser or something along those lines would be good. I've moved to Swindon and we have a House of Fraser outlet store and you can find some rather lovely items. jofabulous
  • Score: 1

4:20pm Sun 18 May 14

JoshDude says...

Micle1974 wrote:
This town, is coming like a ghost town
All the clubs have been closed down
This place, is coming like a ghost town
Bands won't play no more
too much fighting on the dance floor

Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town?
We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown

This town, is coming like a ghost town
Why must the youth fight against themselves?
Government leaving the youth on the shelf
This place, is coming like a ghost town
No job to be found in this country
Can't go on no more
The people getting angry

This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
This town, is coming like a ghost town
Chill out. At least Southampton is not like Detroit.
[quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: This town, is coming like a ghost town All the clubs have been closed down This place, is coming like a ghost town Bands won't play no more too much fighting on the dance floor Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town? We danced and sang, and the music played in a de boomtown This town, is coming like a ghost town Why must the youth fight against themselves? Government leaving the youth on the shelf This place, is coming like a ghost town No job to be found in this country Can't go on no more The people getting angry This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town This town, is coming like a ghost town[/p][/quote]Chill out. At least Southampton is not like Detroit. JoshDude
  • Score: -1

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