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Fresh debate on fluoride

8:37am Wednesday 13th August 2008

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AN issue that split public opinion in Andover half a century ago is to be debated afresh in the local council chamber.

The issue is fluoridation and will be up for public discussion as Test Valley Borough Councillor Cllr Alan Dowden wants the authority to make its position clear before any attempt is made to introduce the controversial chemical to water supplies in this area.

"It's no good being reactive, because sometimes it's a bit too late by then," said the councillor. "I felt it was wise to get into the council first because sometimes a decision can be made before you are aware of it, and all of a sudden something is imposed on people."

Hampshire Primary Care Trust (PCT) has insisted it has no plans to extend the scheme outside Southampton, Eastleigh and Portsmouth to other parts of the region, including Test Valley.

Mr Dowden's motion calls on the council to say, should the PCT change its mind, it is opposed to fluoridation until more evidence is available about feared side effects, including bone, thyroid, and fertility problems.

"I've read quite a lot about it," he said.

"I'm not an expert, but when one expert tells you one thing and another expert tells you another, that gives me concerns."

Mr Dowden is expected to move his motion at the full council meeting on 10 September.


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Brian Jackson, Pendle says...
2:07pm Wed 13 Aug 08

The PCTs are small time players in this game of Fool the Public. Their masters in the SHA do what the Government tells them to and now we know that the Government actually wants to fluoridate half the population, not just the areas currently under fire. Last night here in Pendle, the Scrutiny Committee showed Dr Friendland the door and voted to advise the council to continue with their twenty two year opposition to fluoridation. If councils and the public say no, then it means no, and not try again in another five years when you hope everything has been forgotten. Fluoridation is insane nonesense, bnsed on psuedo-science. It doesnt protect teeth but it does help to make people ill and poison the environment. Whatever happened to consumer choice i wonder ? probably disappeared after the "consultation" over Local Post Offices, amd A & E units. This is what happens when you combine incompetence and sneakiness, you get a bunch of Numptys in Government. not of course that I have any faith in the potential replacements.

Jim Schultz, Ormond Beach Fl USA says...
3:17pm Wed 13 Aug 08

Fluoridation has always been about fraud and big help by industry and the Atomic Energy Commission to protect our nuclear industry from lawsuits. Dentists are just ignorant dupes who also benefit from huge increases in cosmetic damage which is very rewarding and driving huge income increases in US dentists. Pub med Yoder KM 2007 for study showing only 17% of dentists know that ingested fluoride has no value.
The last thing you will get is a open debate. Maybe a presentation of simple talking points but fluoridation looks real stupid in a debate. I got the use of a public hall and five radio talk shows interested in a open debate then the Health department refused to return emails and calls and many requests over radio shows for debate. My own city for three months banned this discussion in public comments. They also sent a transcript and CD of 13 of my recorded requests to a list of dentists to prepare them to fight the charges. This was done at government expense without my knowledge but discover in public records in another city. I was overjoyed that dentists could hear some facts about fluoride. Most are in a fluoride fog of blind promotion. I show the science and studies and they list endorsements. No current science just claims without facts. Fluoridealert.org and waterloowatch.com have the current science and researcher videos. Makes it easy to be smarter then a dentist on ingested fluoride. Jim Schultz

Joe, says...
4:51pm Wed 13 Aug 08

Fluoridation is done more (much) for the benefit of Big Industry ($$$), than on the alleged effects on the teeth! Why expose the whole body to this toxin?
You know it is forbidden to dump/ dilute this industrial sludge into the ocean, lakes, rivers & waterways, yet they made it lawful to be diluted into the very drinking water, to ensure the general population gets well exposed to it, under the guise of sparkling pearly gleaming smiles!!

Remember that those pushing 4 it, have ample financial & political power at their very disposal!

It is totally unnecessary to dump this toxin into drinking water!

Fluoride is essential for enriching Uranium + a key element to the survival of an industrial society.

It is present in many drugs i.e. Prozac, flux (soldering), anesthetics, it is an excellent insecticide + Rat Poison, Sarin nerve gas, it's present in Teflon**; it also does a very good job of displacing iodine (once in the body*).

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Jason, Bitterne says...
11:30am Thu 14 Aug 08

I have been reading these blogs with interest recently and noticed their tone getting evermore conspiratorial. It seems everyone thinks this is one big conspiracy. I personally am concerned with anyone who thinks these sorts of things are a conspiracy with big business pulling the levels. Quite frankly the world does not work like that!

The sooner people realise the term 'safe' is relative and not absolute the better we will all be. You cannot ever say something is 100% safe - look at mobile phones and we all use them. Things can only ever be safer than something else. The real question is do the risks outweigh the benefits. If you do not think so after reading about the subject in proper scientific journals not just on websites and not just listening to those for and against then let them know what you think.

Local people will be doing themseleves and their intellect a dis-service if they just read blogs like this or material pumped out quite frankly by extreme groups on both sides of this debate and believe it.

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