A lorry is trapped under a bridge in Winchester Road in Romsey weeks after another was stuck under a bridge in Greatbridge Road

VIDEO: Lorry stuck under bridge - again

A lorry is stuck underneath a bridge in Botley Road in Romsey

VIDEO: Lorry stuck under bridge - again

VIDEO: Lorry stuck under bridge - again

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TRAFFIC chaos has hit a Hampshire town after a lorry has been trapped beneath a bridge - for the second time in just a few weeks.

The vehicle became stuck beneath the bridge in Botley Road at around 9am, near the roundabout at Winchester Road.

Police have told lorries and other high-sided vehicles to avoid Winchester Road.

Jeffrey Williams was in his house in Winchester Road when he heard the lorry getting stuck under the bridge.

 

He said: “I was in my lounge. There was a significant bang and I wondered what had happened.

“I thought it was a crash between two vehicles.

"I went outside to have a look and I saw the trailer dislodged from the lorry.”

The lorry is 4.5m high and belongs to Rygor Group Services.Andover Advertiser:

Reader Jeffrey Williams sent in this picture of the stricken vehicle with a soft-side trailer which has been bent out of shape by the collision.

Mr Williams reports that cars are mounting the pavement to get round the lorry.

Andover Advertiser:

Valerie Reid, 82, from Winchester Road, added:" I have lived here nearly 40 years but I have never seen a lorry stuck under the bridge from that direction. I am glad that the driver appears to be okay."

It comes weeks after traffic in the town was brought to a halt when a waste lorry was trapped under a railway bridge in Greatbridge Road.

 

 

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9:58am Fri 4 Apr 14

sallyrdn says...

For heavens sake there are enough warning and diversion signs don't these drivers know the height of their vehicles?!!
For heavens sake there are enough warning and diversion signs don't these drivers know the height of their vehicles?!! sallyrdn
  • Score: 27

10:01am Fri 4 Apr 14

Frank28 says...

It's customary for the Police to issue penalty points for this offence.
It's customary for the Police to issue penalty points for this offence. Frank28
  • Score: 13

10:04am Fri 4 Apr 14

duncan1973 says...

The line has now re-opened, although train services may be delayed for a short period as they were being diverted during the line closure.
The line has now re-opened, although train services may be delayed for a short period as they were being diverted during the line closure. duncan1973
  • Score: 3

10:07am Fri 4 Apr 14

Jesta-a-View says...

No excuse.
The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them.
Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence.
It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse.
It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things.
I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.
No excuse. The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them. Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence. It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse. It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things. I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test. Jesta-a-View
  • Score: 17

10:09am Fri 4 Apr 14

duncan1973 says...

Updated, apologies, one line will remain closed whilst the vehicle is moved, the other has a speed restriction so delays for a little longer yet.
Updated, apologies, one line will remain closed whilst the vehicle is moved, the other has a speed restriction so delays for a little longer yet. duncan1973
  • Score: 2

10:32am Fri 4 Apr 14

SotonNorth says...

I think perhaps drivers need tougher penalties to make them think twice. This incident could be classed as "driving without due care and attention", which in this case is not knowing the height of your vehicle or reading the road signs.
I think perhaps drivers need tougher penalties to make them think twice. This incident could be classed as "driving without due care and attention", which in this case is not knowing the height of your vehicle or reading the road signs. SotonNorth
  • Score: 20

10:36am Fri 4 Apr 14

Huey says...

Ahahahaha yet more so-called "professional drivers" at work.
Unskilled idiots.
Ahahahaha yet more so-called "professional drivers" at work. Unskilled idiots. Huey
  • Score: 9

10:45am Fri 4 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

Jesta-a-View wrote:
No excuse.
The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them.
Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence.
It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse.
It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things.
I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.
Your computer seems to have access to more information than mine as I can find no reference to a Sat-Nav. I agree that this bridge does seem to be subject to regular 'truck abuse' but adding your own personal prejudices and embellishments to the article isn't going to help.
[quote][p][bold]Jesta-a-View[/bold] wrote: No excuse. The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them. Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence. It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse. It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things. I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.[/p][/quote]Your computer seems to have access to more information than mine as I can find no reference to a Sat-Nav. I agree that this bridge does seem to be subject to regular 'truck abuse' but adding your own personal prejudices and embellishments to the article isn't going to help. Torchie1
  • Score: 12

12:01pm Fri 4 Apr 14

solomum says...

Either the height restriction signs are incorrect or some drivers clearly are not fit to be in charge of HGV's.
Either the height restriction signs are incorrect or some drivers clearly are not fit to be in charge of HGV's. solomum
  • Score: 9

12:05pm Fri 4 Apr 14

boilerman says...

Why don't the council put bars 15ft in front of these bridges similar to the one's car parks have?
This way if a lorryy hits it, it is only that that has to be repaired and not the bridge , it will also cause less damage to the lorry and enable it to be cleared quicker.
We should then ban these lorry drivers for failing to observe the highway code.
Why don't the council put bars 15ft in front of these bridges similar to the one's car parks have? This way if a lorryy hits it, it is only that that has to be repaired and not the bridge , it will also cause less damage to the lorry and enable it to be cleared quicker. We should then ban these lorry drivers for failing to observe the highway code. boilerman
  • Score: 16

12:34pm Fri 4 Apr 14

romseyboy says...

Jesta-a-View wrote:
No excuse.
The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them.
Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence.
It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse.
It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things.
I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.
too right they should loose their licence
[quote][p][bold]Jesta-a-View[/bold] wrote: No excuse. The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them. Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence. It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse. It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things. I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.[/p][/quote]too right they should loose their licence romseyboy
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Fri 4 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

They should make lorries smaller
They should make lorries smaller bigfella777
  • Score: -3

12:44pm Fri 4 Apr 14

romseyboy says...

didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high
didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high romseyboy
  • Score: -5

1:06pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Mary80 says...

There are height restriction signs everywhere there's NO EXCUSE for them to repeatedly hit the bridges, either they need glasses or they're really dangerous drivers who are ignorant of safety
There are height restriction signs everywhere there's NO EXCUSE for them to repeatedly hit the bridges, either they need glasses or they're really dangerous drivers who are ignorant of safety Mary80
  • Score: 5

1:16pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Crazywolf says...

The HGV driving test clearly isn't tough enough.
The HGV driving test clearly isn't tough enough. Crazywolf
  • Score: 4

1:52pm Fri 4 Apr 14

voiceof thepeople says...

romseyboy wrote:
didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high
TIGERS in Romsey . . . . Quick hide under the bridge !
[quote][p][bold]romseyboy[/bold] wrote: didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high[/p][/quote]TIGERS in Romsey . . . . Quick hide under the bridge ! voiceof thepeople
  • Score: 8

2:13pm Fri 4 Apr 14

BeyondImagination says...

Ban all lorries from going under the bridge. Simple.
Ban all lorries from going under the bridge. Simple. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 1

2:27pm Fri 4 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Clearer and bigger signs must surely be top of the list as this just keeps happening again and again and again.

This bridge ain't been hit in a while. I suppose the little one by the sun inn is due to be hit soon.

Remarks about driving bans for not following the highwcode are a bit steep 75% of car drivers would lose their licence in a few months.

But agree on points, they won't do it again.

That's a tall lorry as double dockers get under there.
Clearer and bigger signs must surely be top of the list as this just keeps happening again and again and again. This bridge ain't been hit in a while. I suppose the little one by the sun inn is due to be hit soon. Remarks about driving bans for not following the highwcode are a bit steep 75% of car drivers would lose their licence in a few months. But agree on points, they won't do it again. That's a tall lorry as double dockers get under there. southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

2:31pm Fri 4 Apr 14

gadget0070 says...

the height of the truck is 14ft6in the height of the bridge says the max height is the same and also EU rules state there is a clearance of 6in between bridge and max height of vehicles so there is15' gap between road and bridge..
I have noticed before when roads are resurfaced they do not adjust the heights of bridges or check them when the work is done .
the height of the truck is 14ft6in the height of the bridge says the max height is the same and also EU rules state there is a clearance of 6in between bridge and max height of vehicles so there is15' gap between road and bridge.. I have noticed before when roads are resurfaced they do not adjust the heights of bridges or check them when the work is done . gadget0070
  • Score: 5

2:45pm Fri 4 Apr 14

kj1963 says...

Perhaps it should be law to be able to at the very least read the QUEENS English before driving for an English company.....
Perhaps it should be law to be able to at the very least read the QUEENS English before driving for an English company..... kj1963
  • Score: -1

2:50pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Mj-trucker says...

Do you people think truckers do it on purpose?? Sheesh
Do you people think truckers do it on purpose?? Sheesh Mj-trucker
  • Score: 1

2:54pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Mj-trucker says...

Feel free to sit near the sun arch bridge watch the lorries go under that despite setting off height warnings! And no.I do.not drive for rygor. Lol
Feel free to sit near the sun arch bridge watch the lorries go under that despite setting off height warnings! And no.I do.not drive for rygor. Lol Mj-trucker
  • Score: 0

3:07pm Fri 4 Apr 14

jonone says...

Mj-trucker wrote:
Do you people think truckers do it on purpose?? Sheesh
So, if I ignore a pedestrian crossing sign and kill a member of your family, I can just say "Hey! I didn't mean it!!"
[quote][p][bold]Mj-trucker[/bold] wrote: Do you people think truckers do it on purpose?? Sheesh[/p][/quote]So, if I ignore a pedestrian crossing sign and kill a member of your family, I can just say "Hey! I didn't mean it!!" jonone
  • Score: -3

3:44pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Huey says...

gadget0070 wrote:
the height of the truck is 14ft6in the height of the bridge says the max height is the same and also EU rules state there is a clearance of 6in between bridge and max height of vehicles so there is15' gap between road and bridge.. I have noticed before when roads are resurfaced they do not adjust the heights of bridges or check them when the work is done .
True, but the road team usually scrape off the old surface with a pavement miller before applying the new surface
[quote][p][bold]gadget0070[/bold] wrote: the height of the truck is 14ft6in the height of the bridge says the max height is the same and also EU rules state there is a clearance of 6in between bridge and max height of vehicles so there is15' gap between road and bridge.. I have noticed before when roads are resurfaced they do not adjust the heights of bridges or check them when the work is done .[/p][/quote]True, but the road team usually scrape off the old surface with a pavement miller before applying the new surface Huey
  • Score: 0

3:51pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Mj-trucker says...

jonone wrote:
Mj-trucker wrote: Do you people think truckers do it on purpose?? Sheesh
So, if I ignore a pedestrian crossing sign and kill a member of your family, I can just say "Hey! I didn't mean it!!"
Depends which.member... This driver hasnt killed any one or even.injured anyone. Except his pride I'm sure. Be sensible about it I know it's a silly thing for him to.of done but Ffs some of the stick is unfair
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mj-trucker[/bold] wrote: Do you people think truckers do it on purpose?? Sheesh[/p][/quote]So, if I ignore a pedestrian crossing sign and kill a member of your family, I can just say "Hey! I didn't mean it!!"[/p][/quote]Depends which.member... This driver hasnt killed any one or even.injured anyone. Except his pride I'm sure. Be sensible about it I know it's a silly thing for him to.of done but Ffs some of the stick is unfair Mj-trucker
  • Score: 0

3:52pm Fri 4 Apr 14

romseyboy says...

it seams there is a lot of lorry drivers these days who don't know the height or weight or width of what they are driving this is about five/six in the last year now in Romsey alone how about these companies who employ these blind drivers have an alert device put into a cab that tells the driver when they come within 50 feet of any given bridge they can not get under and if they keep going then truck comes to a stand still and wont start until the driver gets out of the cab then they make get some common sense.
it seams there is a lot of lorry drivers these days who don't know the height or weight or width of what they are driving this is about five/six in the last year now in Romsey alone how about these companies who employ these blind drivers have an alert device put into a cab that tells the driver when they come within 50 feet of any given bridge they can not get under and if they keep going then truck comes to a stand still and wont start until the driver gets out of the cab then they make get some common sense. romseyboy
  • Score: 0

6:38pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Bobby74 says...

Sorry to blow all your thunder!!
On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6

On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left.

If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein.

Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)
Sorry to blow all your thunder!! On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6 On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left. If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein. Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;) Bobby74
  • Score: 5

6:40pm Fri 4 Apr 14

issacchunt says...

bigfella777 wrote:
They should make lorries smaller
Berk.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: They should make lorries smaller[/p][/quote]Berk. issacchunt
  • Score: 1

7:40pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Bobby74 says...

Jesta-a-View wrote:
No excuse.
The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them.
Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence.
It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse.
It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things.
I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.
Sorry to blow all your thunder!!
On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6

On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left.

If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein.

Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)
[quote][p][bold]Jesta-a-View[/bold] wrote: No excuse. The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them. Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence. It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse. It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things. I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.[/p][/quote]Sorry to blow all your thunder!! On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6 On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left. If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein. Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;) Bobby74
  • Score: 4

8:18pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Mj-trucker says...

Bobby74 wrote:
Jesta-a-View wrote:
No excuse.
The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them.
Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence.
It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse.
It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things.
I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.
Sorry to blow all your thunder!!
On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6

On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left.

If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein.

Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)
On top of that you get to the mini roundabout and stop to.take stock of what's what, then the impatient, non professional, drivers in their cars behind start beeping to say hurry up.
[quote][p][bold]Bobby74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesta-a-View[/bold] wrote: No excuse. The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them. Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence. It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse. It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things. I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.[/p][/quote]Sorry to blow all your thunder!! On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6 On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left. If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein. Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)[/p][/quote]On top of that you get to the mini roundabout and stop to.take stock of what's what, then the impatient, non professional, drivers in their cars behind start beeping to say hurry up. Mj-trucker
  • Score: 3

9:57pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Saintly Sam says...

This truck was driving into Romsey on Botley Road, the flashing sign is situated just a few yards from the junction with Winchester Road, there is nowhere for him to turn around and no doubt with other vehicles behind him, he had nowhere else to go but left, having said that, the other end of Botley Road, at the roundabout with Luzborough Lane is clearly marked with a 7.5 tonne weight limit sign, unless he was delivering in Botley Road he probably should not have even been there in the first place, I can only assume he had an extra high trailer and did not realise that he was too high for either bridge (perhaps he thought the lights were warning him about the Sun Arch?).

A couple of points regarding previous posts, you cannot have a bar across the road to stop trucks because there would be a chance that the bar would break free from the impact and cause serious injuries or worse to any pedestrians walking by, and smaller lorries = less goods carried = cost of goods goes up.

In have myself inadvertently turned down unsuitable roads in the past because the warning signs have been hidden in the over grown branches of trees or have been set back too far in the side road meaning that I have already been committed to the maneuver before I have spotted them.

The solution is better signage on approach roads to obstacles, and better training and supervision for drivers, all too often a driver is given a load and not given any advice regarding the height or length of it or the most suitable route they should take from more experienced drivers.,
This truck was driving into Romsey on Botley Road, the flashing sign is situated just a few yards from the junction with Winchester Road, there is nowhere for him to turn around and no doubt with other vehicles behind him, he had nowhere else to go but left, having said that, the other end of Botley Road, at the roundabout with Luzborough Lane is clearly marked with a 7.5 tonne weight limit sign, unless he was delivering in Botley Road he probably should not have even been there in the first place, I can only assume he had an extra high trailer and did not realise that he was too high for either bridge (perhaps he thought the lights were warning him about the Sun Arch?). A couple of points regarding previous posts, you cannot have a bar across the road to stop trucks because there would be a chance that the bar would break free from the impact and cause serious injuries or worse to any pedestrians walking by, and smaller lorries = less goods carried = cost of goods goes up. In have myself inadvertently turned down unsuitable roads in the past because the warning signs have been hidden in the over grown branches of trees or have been set back too far in the side road meaning that I have already been committed to the maneuver before I have spotted them. The solution is better signage on approach roads to obstacles, and better training and supervision for drivers, all too often a driver is given a load and not given any advice regarding the height or length of it or the most suitable route they should take from more experienced drivers., Saintly Sam
  • Score: 2

10:07pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Saintly Sam says...

Mj-trucker wrote:
Feel free to sit near the sun arch bridge watch the lorries go under that despite setting off height warnings! And no.I do.not drive for rygor. Lol
My lorrie goes under the sun arch several times a week, always setting off the warning lights, it is 11:6, the sun arch is 10:6, the reason is that the highest point of my lorrie is the top of the HIAB crane behind the cab, which easily gets under the arch, so, just because the lights goes off does not mean the vehicle is unable to safely go under the bridge (with my previous lorrie it was the ariel that set off the lights.)
[quote][p][bold]Mj-trucker[/bold] wrote: Feel free to sit near the sun arch bridge watch the lorries go under that despite setting off height warnings! And no.I do.not drive for rygor. Lol[/p][/quote]My lorrie goes under the sun arch several times a week, always setting off the warning lights, it is 11:6, the sun arch is 10:6, the reason is that the highest point of my lorrie is the top of the HIAB crane behind the cab, which easily gets under the arch, so, just because the lights goes off does not mean the vehicle is unable to safely go under the bridge (with my previous lorrie it was the ariel that set off the lights.) Saintly Sam
  • Score: 2

10:50pm Fri 4 Apr 14

dolomiteman says...

romseyboy wrote:
didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high
Are there illuminating signs in Botley road, I ask because Botley road is a 7.5t limit from the Loughbrough pub so he shouldn't have been on that road in the first pace?
[quote][p][bold]romseyboy[/bold] wrote: didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high[/p][/quote]Are there illuminating signs in Botley road, I ask because Botley road is a 7.5t limit from the Loughbrough pub so he shouldn't have been on that road in the first pace? dolomiteman
  • Score: -1

11:54pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Saintly Sam says...

dolomiteman wrote:
romseyboy wrote:
didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high
Are there illuminating signs in Botley road, I ask because Botley road is a 7.5t limit from the Loughbrough pub so he shouldn't have been on that road in the first pace?
7.5t, except for access, there is a shop on the corner of Botley Rd and Northlands Rd that arctics deliver to, though to be honest it does not look like he was doing that, my guess is that he was following his sat nav (a car one, not an HGV type) and did not notice the signage.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romseyboy[/bold] wrote: didn't he see the sign saying stop on botley road that tigers if to high[/p][/quote]Are there illuminating signs in Botley road, I ask because Botley road is a 7.5t limit from the Loughbrough pub so he shouldn't have been on that road in the first pace?[/p][/quote]7.5t, except for access, there is a shop on the corner of Botley Rd and Northlands Rd that arctics deliver to, though to be honest it does not look like he was doing that, my guess is that he was following his sat nav (a car one, not an HGV type) and did not notice the signage. Saintly Sam
  • Score: 2

10:58am Sat 5 Apr 14

Jesta-a-View says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Jesta-a-View wrote:
No excuse.
The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them.
Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence.
It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse.
It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things.
I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.
Your computer seems to have access to more information than mine as I can find no reference to a Sat-Nav. I agree that this bridge does seem to be subject to regular 'truck abuse' but adding your own personal prejudices and embellishments to the article isn't going to help.
Prejudices against what? EXPLAIN.
As for "embellishments"...i
f the driver was not blindly following a Sat Nav then it makes this incident even worse because he was either not watching the road closely enough or he was wilfully ignoring the weight limit road signs that took him to the bridge in the first place.

In fact, I was giving the driver the benefit of the doubt by implying that he was probably using a Sat Nav and taking it as gospel, like so many other foolish types.

Sat Navs are great as an aide. I have used them but it is only common sense that when you reach a built up area you start looking at the local road signs.

So, in your opinion Torchie... which is the worse offence, ignoring road signs and not watching where you are going whilst in charge of a massive vehicle or as is likely, but not certain, in this case, relying too heavily on technology without employing your own grey matter?

The fact is this driver did not know the height of his vehicle (Strike 1), proceeded down an unsuitable road for which his vehicle was over weight (Strike 2) and then when he got to the bridge because he went down the wrong road and did not know the height of his vehicle, even though with difficulty he could have made an awkward 3 point turn at the mini roundabout and gone back up Botley Road from where he came, he must have missed the Big Flashing Lights Sign telling him he was over height turned towards the bridge and hit it (Strike 3 and out!)

Factor in all this and he should definitely lose his licence.

We are not talking a Mini here and huge trucks should only be driven on our roads by people with half a brain because I know many a trucker who being proud professionals, would never make such basic driving errors.

Split hairs all you like Torchie but it seems more than obvious to those with common sense that this Driver, if not blind, must have been blindly following his Sat Nav!
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesta-a-View[/bold] wrote: No excuse. The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them. Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence. It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse. It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things. I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.[/p][/quote]Your computer seems to have access to more information than mine as I can find no reference to a Sat-Nav. I agree that this bridge does seem to be subject to regular 'truck abuse' but adding your own personal prejudices and embellishments to the article isn't going to help.[/p][/quote]Prejudices against what? EXPLAIN. As for "embellishments"...i f the driver was not blindly following a Sat Nav then it makes this incident even worse because he was either not watching the road closely enough or he was wilfully ignoring the weight limit road signs that took him to the bridge in the first place. In fact, I was giving the driver the benefit of the doubt by implying that he was probably using a Sat Nav and taking it as gospel, like so many other foolish types. Sat Navs are great as an aide. I have used them but it is only common sense that when you reach a built up area you start looking at the local road signs. So, in your opinion Torchie... which is the worse offence, ignoring road signs and not watching where you are going whilst in charge of a massive vehicle or as is likely, but not certain, in this case, relying too heavily on technology without employing your own grey matter? The fact is this driver did not know the height of his vehicle (Strike 1), proceeded down an unsuitable road for which his vehicle was over weight (Strike 2) and then when he got to the bridge because he went down the wrong road and did not know the height of his vehicle, even though with difficulty he could have made an awkward 3 point turn at the mini roundabout and gone back up Botley Road from where he came, he must have missed the Big Flashing Lights Sign telling him he was over height turned towards the bridge and hit it (Strike 3 and out!) Factor in all this and he should definitely lose his licence. We are not talking a Mini here and huge trucks should only be driven on our roads by people with half a brain because I know many a trucker who being proud professionals, would never make such basic driving errors. Split hairs all you like Torchie but it seems more than obvious to those with common sense that this Driver, if not blind, must have been blindly following his Sat Nav! Jesta-a-View
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4:37pm Sat 5 Apr 14

kevinchandler100@talktalk.net says...

what is it with these lorry drivers, the cab might fit under the bridge but its the height of the trailer that is the problem the driver forgets the height it . Or the persons blind.
what is it with these lorry drivers, the cab might fit under the bridge but its the height of the trailer that is the problem the driver forgets the height it . Or the persons blind. kevinchandler100@talktalk.net
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9:19pm Sat 5 Apr 14

LolieB says...

Having witnessed the accident 1st hand. I can firstly state it was not an accident. The driver wilfully drove under the bridge, without even properly looking where he was going. I was looking out my window at the time & saw into his cab. So no this can not be disputed.

So first we were again subjected to an HGV driver who is not fit to drive HGVs but then to add insult to injury we were subjected to Police incompetence on an epic scale.

Within seconds, the traffic on the 3 junctions was building up. A Police Woman arrived & started to take a statement from the driver. I ask WHY. He cannot go anywhere, would it not have been better for her to start addressing the crisis with the traffic. Then around 15 minutes later, a Policeman arrived - oh dear. There were a few of us now, I was trying to help direct the traffic to stop an accident. However Mr Policeman firstly thought lets put some signs out saying there's an accident (no **** Sherlock) only the blind could not see the lorry, then he proceeded to put cones not across the road to close it & stop the ensuing chaos but around the lorry that obviously he thought non of us could see.

He then started to have a go at me, (bloody cheek) saying I was making matters worse by trying to assist the traffic & to get out of the road & back to safety on the pavement ha. I moved back to the pavement where our Policeman then started directing traffic up over the pavement, endangering my life & that of my neighbours, it was at this point I called out to him that I would prefer to be in the road as it seemed safer. Then if the carnage was not enough, the brain was again not engaged & the Policeman directed large Vans up over the pavement where they subsequently hit the bridge signage causing more damage :(
Not only this but as the Policeman directed traffic over the pavement, pedestrians were seriously put at risk, which I pointed out much to the disgust of the Policeman, he responded he would deal correctly with pedestrians when they came along. Then a young lady came along with a small dog, the Policeman felt the best way of dealing with this was to encourage more vehicles some large to mount the pavement & almost hit the lady & dog. I was furious & made my feeling felt.

It took roughly an hour before more Police arrived, which is so inadequate. The incompetence I witnessed yesterday, simply beggars belief. I was made to feel utterly ashamed of our Police Service, who were unable to deal with this situation in any way.

It is time that
1 HGV drivers loose their licences if they make these kind of mistakes
2 Councils make sure signs are put everywhere
3 The Police are given training on how to deal with traffic issues, other than using speed cameras

As someone who lives near the Bridge, I am terrified every time an imbecile hits the bridge as each time it weakens, so one day a train will go over & the bridge will collapse.
Having witnessed the accident 1st hand. I can firstly state it was not an accident. The driver wilfully drove under the bridge, without even properly looking where he was going. I was looking out my window at the time & saw into his cab. So no this can not be disputed. So first we were again subjected to an HGV driver who is not fit to drive HGVs but then to add insult to injury we were subjected to Police incompetence on an epic scale. Within seconds, the traffic on the 3 junctions was building up. A Police Woman arrived & started to take a statement from the driver. I ask WHY. He cannot go anywhere, would it not have been better for her to start addressing the crisis with the traffic. Then around 15 minutes later, a Policeman arrived - oh dear. There were a few of us now, I was trying to help direct the traffic to stop an accident. However Mr Policeman firstly thought lets put some signs out saying there's an accident (no **** Sherlock) only the blind could not see the lorry, then he proceeded to put cones not across the road to close it & stop the ensuing chaos but around the lorry that obviously he thought non of us could see. He then started to have a go at me, (bloody cheek) saying I was making matters worse by trying to assist the traffic & to get out of the road & back to safety on the pavement ha. I moved back to the pavement where our Policeman then started directing traffic up over the pavement, endangering my life & that of my neighbours, it was at this point I called out to him that I would prefer to be in the road as it seemed safer. Then if the carnage was not enough, the brain was again not engaged & the Policeman directed large Vans up over the pavement where they subsequently hit the bridge signage causing more damage :( Not only this but as the Policeman directed traffic over the pavement, pedestrians were seriously put at risk, which I pointed out much to the disgust of the Policeman, he responded he would deal correctly with pedestrians when they came along. Then a young lady came along with a small dog, the Policeman felt the best way of dealing with this was to encourage more vehicles some large to mount the pavement & almost hit the lady & dog. I was furious & made my feeling felt. It took roughly an hour before more Police arrived, which is so inadequate. The incompetence I witnessed yesterday, simply beggars belief. I was made to feel utterly ashamed of our Police Service, who were unable to deal with this situation in any way. It is time that 1 HGV drivers loose their licences if they make these kind of mistakes 2 Councils make sure signs are put everywhere 3 The Police are given training on how to deal with traffic issues, other than using speed cameras As someone who lives near the Bridge, I am terrified every time an imbecile hits the bridge as each time it weakens, so one day a train will go over & the bridge will collapse. LolieB
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10:07pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dolomiteman says...

Bobby74 wrote:
Sorry to blow all your thunder!!
On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6

On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left.

If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein.

Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)
Incorrect, Botley Road has a7.5T weight limit so no trucks should be using that road in the first place and the bridge to the left is 14'6 not 16'6.
[quote][p][bold]Bobby74[/bold] wrote: Sorry to blow all your thunder!! On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6 On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left. If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein. Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)[/p][/quote]Incorrect, Botley Road has a7.5T weight limit so no trucks should be using that road in the first place and the bridge to the left is 14'6 not 16'6. dolomiteman
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10:13pm Sat 5 Apr 14

dolomiteman says...

Bobby74 wrote:
Jesta-a-View wrote:
No excuse.
The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them.
Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence.
It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse.
It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things.
I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.
Sorry to blow all your thunder!!
On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6

On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left.

If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein.

Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)
nope all bridges under 5 metres. (16'6) have to be marked on and before the bridge.
Thee isn't any flashing signs in Botley road because Botley road has a 7.5ton weight limit so goods vehicles are not allowed along that road and it is clearly marked as a weight limited road at the roundabout by the loughbough pub and on the roads approaching.
[quote][p][bold]Bobby74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesta-a-View[/bold] wrote: No excuse. The Bridges around Romsey are all well signposted with damned great flashing light signs going off if you are over height well before you ever get near them. Any so called "Professional Driver" who hits a low bridge should lose their licence. It seems to have got to the point where blindly following a Sat Nav without looking at local road signs is almost seen as an acceptable excuse. It isn't. It is a pathetic excuse and though the Bridges were hit in the past by careless drivers, it has now become an all too common and regular occurrence since in cab technology has "improved" things. I think it is time to make safe Sat Nav operation part of the Driving Test.[/p][/quote]Sorry to blow all your thunder!! On bottles road t junction there are 2 bridges at the end1 on the right 10"6 and the 1 on the left 16"6 On the approach to that junction there are only signs and indicators for the bridge on the right. There is no sigh for the 1 to the left at all and to make things even worse there is a flashing sigh that says all HGV turn left. If a bridge hasn't been warned about a trucker will presume that the bridge is 17"5. They are the general rules of train bridges. So I'm afraid all you guys saying what you have is all in vein. Blame the council for the very inadequate signs. It's no wonder it keep happening! Rant over;)[/p][/quote]nope all bridges under 5 metres. (16'6) have to be marked on and before the bridge. Thee isn't any flashing signs in Botley road because Botley road has a 7.5ton weight limit so goods vehicles are not allowed along that road and it is clearly marked as a weight limited road at the roundabout by the loughbough pub and on the roads approaching. dolomiteman
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