Winchester civic chiefs confirm traffic restrictions in city centre streets

Andover Advertiser: Great Minster Street Great Minster Street

A CONTROVERSIAL traffic order will now be made permanent in Winchester city centre.

Since July 2013, Great Minster Street and Market Lane have been subject to experimental Traffic Regulation Orders.

A 6’ 0” width restriction with no access exemptions was introduced to Great Minster Street, and two-way traffic allowed in Market Lane between St Maurice’s Covert and its junction with Market Street.

The measures, which were last week (March 5) unanimously approved by Winchester city councillors at the Traffic and Parking committee, were not welcomed by shop owners last January.

They said passing traffic encouraged more shoppers, and the measures would see an almost 25 per cent drop in trade.

Councillors disagreed however, and the plans will now be made permanent, with the council reporting no traffic management problems resulting from the changes.

Only one objection letter was received following the introduction of the order, relating to concerns about the potential impact on disabled people accessing the city centre.

This has since been assessed, with no issues observed by the council.

Cllr Victoria Weston, portfolio holder for built environment, said: “It’s about making The Square a much nicer place and that is what we are trying to achieve.”

The order, which is jointly funded by Hampshire County and Winchester City Councils, was also welcomed by local ward representative Cllr Ian Tait, who said: “I wholeheartedly support it.”

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10:31am Tue 11 Mar 14

Belgarum says...

> "A 6’ 0” width restriction with no access exemptions was introduced to Great Minster Street"

... which is not enforced in any way, and which everybody (especially taxis!) ignores.

Another pointless waste of time (and taxpayers money), defacing the city by placing ugly traffic signs next to the cathedral.
> "A 6’ 0” width restriction with no access exemptions was introduced to Great Minster Street" ... which is not enforced in any way, and which everybody (especially taxis!) ignores. Another pointless waste of time (and taxpayers money), defacing the city by placing ugly traffic signs next to the cathedral. Belgarum
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5:45pm Tue 11 Mar 14

retiredoldgit says...

I agree with Belgarum, the number of people driving through the Square from Southgate Street is still very high. If challenged anyone driving through can always say "I was looking for a parking space" so the traffic restriction is unenforcable and pointless. Traffic planners cannot assume people "will do the right thing". If a traffic restriction can be ignored a lot of people will ignore it - a bit like the buses and cyclists only access past Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer.
I agree with Belgarum, the number of people driving through the Square from Southgate Street is still very high. If challenged anyone driving through can always say "I was looking for a parking space" so the traffic restriction is unenforcable and pointless. Traffic planners cannot assume people "will do the right thing". If a traffic restriction can be ignored a lot of people will ignore it - a bit like the buses and cyclists only access past Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer. retiredoldgit
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8:01pm Tue 11 Mar 14

steak and kidney says...

Why don't they build a shopping mall on the outskirts of the city. Maybe incorporate it within the Barton Farm housing project. It will certainly cut the traffic down in the city centre. Hopefully all the large corporations would move out of the centre so the council would be forced to lower business rates and let decent independent shops thrive. just an idea.....nice
Why don't they build a shopping mall on the outskirts of the city. Maybe incorporate it within the Barton Farm housing project. It will certainly cut the traffic down in the city centre. Hopefully all the large corporations would move out of the centre so the council would be forced to lower business rates and let decent independent shops thrive. just an idea.....nice steak and kidney
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6:22pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Farthinghill says...

retiredoldgit wrote:
I agree with Belgarum, the number of people driving through the Square from Southgate Street is still very high. If challenged anyone driving through can always say "I was looking for a parking space" so the traffic restriction is unenforcable and pointless. Traffic planners cannot assume people "will do the right thing". If a traffic restriction can be ignored a lot of people will ignore it - a bit like the buses and cyclists only access past Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer.
Wake up councillors - no traffic management problems resulting from the changes? How do they account for the number of vehicles travelling the wrong way down Great Minster Street, presumably because of the introduction of two-way traffic in The Square.
[quote][p][bold]retiredoldgit[/bold] wrote: I agree with Belgarum, the number of people driving through the Square from Southgate Street is still very high. If challenged anyone driving through can always say "I was looking for a parking space" so the traffic restriction is unenforcable and pointless. Traffic planners cannot assume people "will do the right thing". If a traffic restriction can be ignored a lot of people will ignore it - a bit like the buses and cyclists only access past Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer.[/p][/quote]Wake up councillors - no traffic management problems resulting from the changes? How do they account for the number of vehicles travelling the wrong way down Great Minster Street, presumably because of the introduction of two-way traffic in The Square. Farthinghill
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7:48pm Sun 16 Mar 14

winchester resident says...

Farthinghill wrote:
retiredoldgit wrote:
I agree with Belgarum, the number of people driving through the Square from Southgate Street is still very high. If challenged anyone driving through can always say "I was looking for a parking space" so the traffic restriction is unenforcable and pointless. Traffic planners cannot assume people "will do the right thing". If a traffic restriction can be ignored a lot of people will ignore it - a bit like the buses and cyclists only access past Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer.
Wake up councillors - no traffic management problems resulting from the changes? How do they account for the number of vehicles travelling the wrong way down Great Minster Street, presumably because of the introduction of two-way traffic in The Square.
But there's always been two way traffic in the Square???

Surely the only thing that's newly become two way is a little stretch of Market Lane behind Morley College and one can't blame traffic travelling the wrong way in Gt Minster Street on that.......more properly on the twisted sign entering Gt Minster St and none on the driver's side.
Get the signage right, please.
[quote][p][bold]Farthinghill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retiredoldgit[/bold] wrote: I agree with Belgarum, the number of people driving through the Square from Southgate Street is still very high. If challenged anyone driving through can always say "I was looking for a parking space" so the traffic restriction is unenforcable and pointless. Traffic planners cannot assume people "will do the right thing". If a traffic restriction can be ignored a lot of people will ignore it - a bit like the buses and cyclists only access past Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer.[/p][/quote]Wake up councillors - no traffic management problems resulting from the changes? How do they account for the number of vehicles travelling the wrong way down Great Minster Street, presumably because of the introduction of two-way traffic in The Square.[/p][/quote]But there's always been two way traffic in the Square??? Surely the only thing that's newly become two way is a little stretch of Market Lane behind Morley College and one can't blame traffic travelling the wrong way in Gt Minster Street on that.......more properly on the twisted sign entering Gt Minster St and none on the driver's side. Get the signage right, please. winchester resident
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