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Is there anything left in Britain that is not now owned by a foreign country?
Forget the smokescreen about being built by Warings it will be owned and run by "Bouygues, a French construction giant". Thought we would have learned when all the public utilities. transport, telecommunications, industry and the NHS were and are all being sold off to another country. All the profit that once went into the exchequer when they were owned by the country helped to pay for social services, education, community projects, day centres, youth centres maintenance of public buildings, parks and roads now goes into the pockets of the rich and their off-shore tax havens where they contribute NOTHING to society least of all in taxation unlike the rest of the nation. So how is good news and something to be proud of?

roofspace wrote:
Is there anything left in Britain that is not now owned by a foreign country?
Forget the smokescreen about being built by Warings it will be owned and run by "Bouygues, a French construction giant". Thought we would have learned when all the public utilities. transport, telecommunications, industry and the NHS were and are all being sold off to another country. All the profit that once went into the exchequer when they were owned by the country helped to pay for social services, education, community projects, day centres, youth centres maintenance of public buildings, parks and roads now goes into the pockets of the rich and their off-shore tax havens where they contribute NOTHING to society least of all in taxation unlike the rest of the nation. So how is good news and something to be proud of?

You mean like the profits of British leyland?
but then the other Nationalised Industries had to pay to support that company & it's strike a minute work force so exactly how much did the treasury get?

roofspace wrote:
Is there anything left in Britain that is not now owned by a foreign country? Forget the smokescreen about being built by Warings it will be owned and run by "Bouygues, a French construction giant". Thought we would have learned when all the public utilities. transport, telecommunications, industry and the NHS were and are all being sold off to another country. All the profit that once went into the exchequer when they were owned by the country helped to pay for social services, education, community projects, day centres, youth centres maintenance of public buildings, parks and roads now goes into the pockets of the rich and their off-shore tax havens where they contribute NOTHING to society least of all in taxation unlike the rest of the nation. So how is good news and something to be proud of?

yep - or alternatively it couild be held by Bouygues Construction Investments - their london based uk arm.

Probably not best to twist facts into what is obviously a very blinkered view. And dont use capital letters!

As most large British companies are doing everything in their power to avoid paying UK tax I doubt that it will make much difference.

I bet they underestimate the car parking capacity!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I bet they underestimate the car parking capacity!

I bet the loonies will expect the employees to go to work on a bike.

Agree with Loosehead. It's wrong to talk about profits because there weren't any. But what is wrong is that we allowed any foregin country to bid for our utilities when British companies were prevented from doing the same even in this so called "free " European market. Any British company trying to buy a French company had so many obstacles placed in its way as to become impossible, yet we our utilities are now run by the French. Who is to blame? It is not the ministers - they are all temporary - it is the thousands of faceless incompetent bureaucrats who populate Quangos and thousands of civil service departments who constantly tell ministers that removing our trade barriers encourages other countries to do the same, And now after 25 years of foreign takeovers there is almost nothing left to buy and they are STILL saying it. That is the British problem and will it go away when labour get back in? No, Nothing will change despite all the rhetoric and hot air because the same morons are still in the same think tanks.

i suspect the shops next door will all be demolished in good time for car parking , the dirty tricks department are already in action .

Bouygues own Warings Contractors!

How much did the council sell the land for?

Where is everyone going to park?
There's going to be 364 student rooms.
How many people work at the doctors surgery?
How many patients will be at the surgery at any one time?

They are not all going to go by bike and there isnt anywhere close to park because of the main road?

So the story now is that this site has lain empty for years. Actually it was the Swaythling Youth Centre, the Local Area Housing office and the car park for Swaythling shops. All sold off to finance the Sea City Mausoleum at the same time the last lot in power also sold off the Flowere Roads Community centre probably for the same reason. The Flower Roads have nothing now and the two Swaythling Tory councillors at the time didn't raise a bleat despite our repeated requests. Thank God for the likes of Don Thomas.

Inform Al wrote:
So the story now is that this site has lain empty for years. Actually it was the Swaythling Youth Centre, the Local Area Housing office and the car park for Swaythling shops. All sold off to finance the Sea City Mausoleum at the same time the last lot in power also sold off the Flowere Roads Community centre probably for the same reason. The Flower Roads have nothing now and the two Swaythling Tory councillors at the time didn't raise a bleat despite our repeated requests. Thank God for the likes of Don Thomas.

The two councillors were probably terrified of the Wrath of Royston, to be honest most were, anyone who questioned him or his ideals was pretty excluded from the council/party the same way as a certain Bitterne Park councillor

Inform Al wrote:
So the story now is that this site has lain empty for years. Actually it was the Swaythling Youth Centre, the Local Area Housing office and the car park for Swaythling shops. All sold off to finance the Sea City Mausoleum at the same time the last lot in power also sold off the Flowere Roads Community centre probably for the same reason. The Flower Roads have nothing now and the two Swaythling Tory councillors at the time didn't raise a bleat despite our repeated requests. Thank God for the likes of Don Thomas.

So Cantell school isn't there then?
Funny when I did a post round in that area Cantell School was advertising community activities so a bit like Oasis Academy so it's not as if there's no where for the young or the community go is it?
Maybe open up a few of the SureStart centres as Youth clubs could help?

I hope this building & others being built for the same reason means we don't need HMO's & these properties can return to family homes.
Swaythling Portswood has many great looking hoses which are either flats or HMO's & I would love to see them returned to family homes

loosehead wrote:

roofspace wrote:
Is there anything left in Britain that is not now owned by a foreign country?
Forget the smokescreen about being built by Warings it will be owned and run by "Bouygues, a French construction giant". Thought we would have learned when all the public utilities. transport, telecommunications, industry and the NHS were and are all being sold off to another country. All the profit that once went into the exchequer when they were owned by the country helped to pay for social services, education, community projects, day centres, youth centres maintenance of public buildings, parks and roads now goes into the pockets of the rich and their off-shore tax havens where they contribute NOTHING to society least of all in taxation unlike the rest of the nation. So how is good news and something to be proud of?

You mean like the profits of British leyland?
but then the other Nationalised Industries had to pay to support that company & it's strike a minute work force so exactly how much did the treasury get?

The treasury got £millions from British Leyland and that was with the strikes about improving working conditions, BL was one of biggest exporters right up to the day it was denationalise and sold off, there export in numbers was larger than of cars manufactured in Britian since, and never have been equaled.
The major part of the profits that BL made went towards paying off WWI loan, the debt that Capitalist ran up in the 1920's and 30's and paid the majority of the WWII loan, if it was not for the old nationalise industarys we would still be owing a great deal of these debt

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:

roofspace wrote:
Is there anything left in Britain that is not now owned by a foreign country?
Forget the smokescreen about being built by Warings it will be owned and run by "Bouygues, a French construction giant". Thought we would have learned when all the public utilities. transport, telecommunications, industry and the NHS were and are all being sold off to another country. All the profit that once went into the exchequer when they were owned by the country helped to pay for social services, education, community projects, day centres, youth centres maintenance of public buildings, parks and roads now goes into the pockets of the rich and their off-shore tax havens where they contribute NOTHING to society least of all in taxation unlike the rest of the nation. So how is good news and something to be proud of?

You mean like the profits of British leyland?
but then the other Nationalised Industries had to pay to support that company & it's strike a minute work force so exactly how much did the treasury get?

The treasury got £millions from British Leyland and that was with the strikes about improving working conditions, BL was one of biggest exporters right up to the day it was denationalise and sold off, there export in numbers was larger than of cars manufactured in Britian since, and never have been equaled.
The major part of the profits that BL made went towards paying off WWI loan, the debt that Capitalist ran up in the 1920's and 30's and paid the majority of the WWII loan, if it was not for the old nationalise industarys we would still be owing a great deal of these debt

You're having a laugh aren't you?
Next you'll say British Rail was highly profitable & there's no reason why were subsidising rail travel now ?

no mention of demolishing probably the best 60s tower block built in southampton ,just half a mile away.

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:

roofspace wrote:
Is there anything left in Britain that is not now owned by a foreign country?
Forget the smokescreen about being built by Warings it will be owned and run by "Bouygues, a French construction giant". Thought we would have learned when all the public utilities. transport, telecommunications, industry and the NHS were and are all being sold off to another country. All the profit that once went into the exchequer when they were owned by the country helped to pay for social services, education, community projects, day centres, youth centres maintenance of public buildings, parks and roads now goes into the pockets of the rich and their off-shore tax havens where they contribute NOTHING to society least of all in taxation unlike the rest of the nation. So how is good news and something to be proud of?

You mean like the profits of British leyland?
but then the other Nationalised Industries had to pay to support that company & it's strike a minute work force so exactly how much did the treasury get?

The treasury got £millions from British Leyland and that was with the strikes about improving working conditions, BL was one of biggest exporters right up to the day it was denationalise and sold off, there export in numbers was larger than of cars manufactured in Britian since, and never have been equaled.
The major part of the profits that BL made went towards paying off WWI loan, the debt that Capitalist ran up in the 1920's and 30's and paid the majority of the WWII loan, if it was not for the old nationalise industarys we would still be owing a great deal of these debt

Bonkers garbage.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:

roofspace wrote:
Is there anything left in Britain that is not now owned by a foreign country?
Forget the smokescreen about being built by Warings it will be owned and run by "Bouygues, a French construction giant". Thought we would have learned when all the public utilities. transport, telecommunications, industry and the NHS were and are all being sold off to another country. All the profit that once went into the exchequer when they were owned by the country helped to pay for social services, education, community projects, day centres, youth centres maintenance of public buildings, parks and roads now goes into the pockets of the rich and their off-shore tax havens where they contribute NOTHING to society least of all in taxation unlike the rest of the nation. So how is good news and something to be proud of?

You mean like the profits of British leyland?
but then the other Nationalised Industries had to pay to support that company & it's strike a minute work force so exactly how much did the treasury get?

The treasury got £millions from British Leyland and that was with the strikes about improving working conditions, BL was one of biggest exporters right up to the day it was denationalise and sold off, there export in numbers was larger than of cars manufactured in Britian since, and never have been equaled.
The major part of the profits that BL made went towards paying off WWI loan, the debt that Capitalist ran up in the 1920's and 30's and paid the majority of the WWII loan, if it was not for the old nationalise industarys we would still be owing a great deal of these debt

Bonkers garbage.

.. of course.

But then, you remember the Soviet 5 Year Plans? Every one of them achieved much more than the target in well under 5 years.

Which makes it very strange that millions starved, shops were empty, queues were enormous, housing was substandard and industrial production fell well behind the west.

Just like southy's 'statistics', the actual statistics are irrelevant if only the ‘official truth’ is to be believed.

The totalitarian left live on – but have certainly come down a few pegs if they now have to rely on southy to spread the party line.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I bet they underestimate the car parking capacity!

Anyone who knows the area will know that there will be nowhere to park but the local streets where parking is a nightmare already.