The Bush Inn in Southampton to be knocked down and replaced with housing

Andover Advertiser: GOING: The Bush Inn at Maybush GOING: The Bush Inn at Maybush

A SOUTHAMPTON pub will be knocked down and replaced with houses.

Work to demolish the Bush Inn in Maybush will begin in March.

It will eventually be replaced by a nine-home affordable housing development.

Once a thriving watering hole, the pub in Wimpson Lane closed its doors for the last time in 2010.

Aster Homes applied to Southampton City Council last year to knock it down and they have now been given the green light.

The plans are for six houses – three of which will have two bedrooms and three of which will have three bedrooms – and a block of three, two-bedroom flats.

All of the properties will be affordable housing, which will be managed by Aster Communities in cooperation with the city council.

Work is due to begin on the site in March, and is expected to be completed in about a year.

Aster Homes’ regional development director Anna Kear said: “We’re delighted to be working with Southampton City Council on this exciting project which will breathe new life into a site that’s been disused for some time.

“We have considerable experience of delivering high-quality new affordable homes all over the city.

We’re very pleased to be bringing all that expertise to this scheme and are looking forward to starting work.”

One of the area’s Labour ward councillors, Andrew Pope, said: “Having looked at the plans, they are all going to be social housing which is important. However I am concerned about losing pubs and community venues – we need to have them and yet we are rapidly losing them.

“I’m disappointed that we are losing another pub.”

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11:06am Mon 3 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside. sotonboy84
  • Score: 24

11:15am Mon 3 Feb 14

KingMawwaw says...

No, pub sites should be used for pubs.
No, pub sites should be used for pubs. KingMawwaw
  • Score: 18

11:26am Mon 3 Feb 14

sotonbusdriver says...

Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes. sotonbusdriver
  • Score: -46

11:38am Mon 3 Feb 14

motorizer says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY... motorizer
  • Score: -7

11:41am Mon 3 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
Then we can all be issued with our state-approved grey boiler suits and stand in front of the videscreen doing our morning exercises, before the 2 minutes hate. Conform, voter.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]Then we can all be issued with our state-approved grey boiler suits and stand in front of the videscreen doing our morning exercises, before the 2 minutes hate. Conform, voter. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 43

11:42am Mon 3 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Quite. Our country is something like 97% green field.
[quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Quite. Our country is something like 97% green field. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 14

11:46am Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
What a lot of garbage, Instead of fighting to smoke you attack alcohol trying to make it out to be worse than fags?
I was in the TA RCT we went out together on the weekend & always one of us would be duty driver so no drink driving.
You name excess drinking problems but fail to mention the good effects of moderate drinking like lower cholesterol in your blood stream or if it hadn't been for alcohol most of our ancestors would have died from drinking water.
I worked at BAT & I know the effects of smoking I also know that doctors prescribed smoking to calm the nerves in WW2 instead of giving drugs.
Now you say about fighting? really how many footie games go by with out at least a flare up?
some elements of society don't drink & most of the ones caught rioting & looting weren't under the influence of alcohol some were under the influence but a different form one that's illegal.
Also now with this ridiculous attack on Alcohol by the NHS & people like you how many young drivers smoke & drive(not tobacco)?
it's not alcohol that's the problem as most people can drink moderately & no problem it's the type of people no matter the type of thing they drink,smoke go over the top.
You must remember your youth?
Some men went out to chat up the ladies or at least try to others went out to fight & then you had those who went out to get rat arsed.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]What a lot of garbage, Instead of fighting to smoke you attack alcohol trying to make it out to be worse than fags? I was in the TA RCT we went out together on the weekend & always one of us would be duty driver so no drink driving. You name excess drinking problems but fail to mention the good effects of moderate drinking like lower cholesterol in your blood stream or if it hadn't been for alcohol most of our ancestors would have died from drinking water. I worked at BAT & I know the effects of smoking I also know that doctors prescribed smoking to calm the nerves in WW2 instead of giving drugs. Now you say about fighting? really how many footie games go by with out at least a flare up? some elements of society don't drink & most of the ones caught rioting & looting weren't under the influence of alcohol some were under the influence but a different form one that's illegal. Also now with this ridiculous attack on Alcohol by the NHS & people like you how many young drivers smoke & drive(not tobacco)? it's not alcohol that's the problem as most people can drink moderately & no problem it's the type of people no matter the type of thing they drink,smoke go over the top. You must remember your youth? Some men went out to chat up the ladies or at least try to others went out to fight & then you had those who went out to get rat arsed. loosehead
  • Score: 12

11:50am Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished?
then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub?
So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development?
This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished? then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub? So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development? loosehead
  • Score: 12

12:06pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zexagon says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
Only if you're stupid
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]Only if you're stupid Zexagon
  • Score: 8

12:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

tootle says...

It shut, it says in 2010. Personally - good riddance. Why build another pub - school might be a better use of land round there. After all the secondarys are full - no idea about the primaries but, judging by all the extending going on, think they may be too.
It shut, it says in 2010. Personally - good riddance. Why build another pub - school might be a better use of land round there. After all the secondarys are full - no idea about the primaries but, judging by all the extending going on, think they may be too. tootle
  • Score: 11

12:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Linesman says...

motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
[quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures. Linesman
  • Score: 19

12:13pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
I have flown over the UK and do live in a city (hence my screen name). Every year more countryside is lost to development which has disasterous consequences to the environment and the look and feel of the countryside. There is also more pressure on exisiting rural infrastructure and an increase in pollution as people are forced to use cars to get to the city's they work in rather than replying on city public transport.

So do you suggest it's better to destroy the exisiting countryside but leave brownfield sites and decaying pubs such as the pub in this article to rot and be vandalised rather than using them for housing?

Typical igorant small minded view, mate.
[quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]I have flown over the UK and do live in a city (hence my screen name). Every year more countryside is lost to development which has disasterous consequences to the environment and the look and feel of the countryside. There is also more pressure on exisiting rural infrastructure and an increase in pollution as people are forced to use cars to get to the city's they work in rather than replying on city public transport. So do you suggest it's better to destroy the exisiting countryside but leave brownfield sites and decaying pubs such as the pub in this article to rot and be vandalised rather than using them for housing? Typical igorant small minded view, mate. sotonboy84
  • Score: 11

12:14pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

KingMawwaw wrote:
No, pub sites should be used for pubs.
Should have got out of your armchair then run this pub to prevent it from being closed. There's too many people like you - have plenty to say but actually do nothing to change things.
[quote][p][bold]KingMawwaw[/bold] wrote: No, pub sites should be used for pubs.[/p][/quote]Should have got out of your armchair then run this pub to prevent it from being closed. There's too many people like you - have plenty to say but actually do nothing to change things. sotonboy84
  • Score: 11

12:17pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished?
then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub?
So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development?
If the pub were a thriving business it would not have closed four years ago.

So often people, who have never used the pub, complain when one is closed, and if a 'stay of execution' is obtained, they use it for a few weeks before it is 'back to normal' and not making a profit.

Pubs were most popular before TV, and as the number of channels have increased, so has the number of pubs that have closed. Why go there for a pint when you can buy a few cans in the supermarket and drink at home in front of the TV?

The pubs that stay open and thrive are usually ones that do not rely on the drinks trade, but offer good food at an affordable price.

The area has managed without it for four years, but the number of people needing a home has steadily increased.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished? then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub? So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development?[/p][/quote]If the pub were a thriving business it would not have closed four years ago. So often people, who have never used the pub, complain when one is closed, and if a 'stay of execution' is obtained, they use it for a few weeks before it is 'back to normal' and not making a profit. Pubs were most popular before TV, and as the number of channels have increased, so has the number of pubs that have closed. Why go there for a pint when you can buy a few cans in the supermarket and drink at home in front of the TV? The pubs that stay open and thrive are usually ones that do not rely on the drinks trade, but offer good food at an affordable price. The area has managed without it for four years, but the number of people needing a home has steadily increased. Linesman
  • Score: 12

12:40pm Mon 3 Feb 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
ninety five per cent of the land owned by five per cent and not a house in sight.
[quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]ninety five per cent of the land owned by five per cent and not a house in sight. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
  • Score: 2

12:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
I would be surprised if much of the food etc we eat or drink originates from this country. Cows in fields? Your having alaugh. A bit more research needed i think to find out where the food on your plate really comes from.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]I would be surprised if much of the food etc we eat or drink originates from this country. Cows in fields? Your having alaugh. A bit more research needed i think to find out where the food on your plate really comes from. KSO16R
  • Score: 1

12:58pm Mon 3 Feb 14

KSO16R says...

loosehead wrote:
This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished?
then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub?
So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development?
Your local drug store
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished? then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub? So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development?[/p][/quote]Your local drug store KSO16R
  • Score: 1

1:00pm Mon 3 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -8

1:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk.
Oh of course not, because each time a square mile of countrside is built on, 10 more square miles are 'planted'... Idiot.

Take a look at the below from the Campaign to Protect Rural England website.

Our land is running out. Nobody is doing this on purpose, but we are chipping away at it and covering up around 25 square miles every year. Over half the countryside is now affected by urban disturbance.

http://www.cpre.org.
uk/what-we-do/countr
yside/landscapes/the
-issues
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk.[/p][/quote]Oh of course not, because each time a square mile of countrside is built on, 10 more square miles are 'planted'... Idiot. Take a look at the below from the Campaign to Protect Rural England website. Our land is running out. Nobody is doing this on purpose, but we are chipping away at it and covering up around 25 square miles every year. Over half the countryside is now affected by urban disturbance. http://www.cpre.org. uk/what-we-do/countr yside/landscapes/the -issues sotonboy84
  • Score: 11

1:07pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

KSO16R wrote:
Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
I would be surprised if much of the food etc we eat or drink originates from this country. Cows in fields? Your having alaugh. A bit more research needed i think to find out where the food on your plate really comes from.
I for one buy food produced in this country (apart from some foods we can't grow from Europe) and there are many other people that buy only Britsh food. Buying British supports British farmers and producers and reduces polution as less food is needed to be imported from much further afield (Arica, America's etc.).

So, I know where all the food I eat comes from.
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]I would be surprised if much of the food etc we eat or drink originates from this country. Cows in fields? Your having alaugh. A bit more research needed i think to find out where the food on your plate really comes from.[/p][/quote]I for one buy food produced in this country (apart from some foods we can't grow from Europe) and there are many other people that buy only Britsh food. Buying British supports British farmers and producers and reduces polution as less food is needed to be imported from much further afield (Arica, America's etc.). So, I know where all the food I eat comes from. sotonboy84
  • Score: 12

1:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

jackois says...

It's more pleasing to see this space being used for housing rather than another mini-supermarket...

They must be reaching saturation point now?
It's more pleasing to see this space being used for housing rather than another mini-supermarket... They must be reaching saturation point now? jackois
  • Score: 4

1:14pm Mon 3 Feb 14

motorizer says...

Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!! If you honestly think that all our country side is needed to provide us with Milk and food..... You really do need to get out and open your eyes before posting such a load of patronising tosh.

I love the countryside and like noting more than being in it.

If you think I am saying we should cover it in concrete then you are more deluded than you appear.

You are very lucky if you dont have to endure our cities and the chaos our building and road policies are creating.... Next time you are out and about just open your eyes to all the ares that could be built on out of town and affect none of our much needed farms. Its about getting a balance... Now if we do build out fo town and its carried out by and overseen by numpties who know nothing more than their bank balance then thats another discussion.......
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]Unbelievable!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! If you honestly think that all our country side is needed to provide us with Milk and food..... You really do need to get out and open your eyes before posting such a load of patronising tosh. I love the countryside and like noting more than being in it. If you think I am saying we should cover it in concrete then you are more deluded than you appear. You are very lucky if you dont have to endure our cities and the chaos our building and road policies are creating.... Next time you are out and about just open your eyes to all the ares that could be built on out of town and affect none of our much needed farms. Its about getting a balance... Now if we do build out fo town and its carried out by and overseen by numpties who know nothing more than their bank balance then thats another discussion....... motorizer
  • Score: -2

1:19pm Mon 3 Feb 14

motorizer says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
I have flown over the UK and do live in a city (hence my screen name). Every year more countryside is lost to development which has disasterous consequences to the environment and the look and feel of the countryside. There is also more pressure on exisiting rural infrastructure and an increase in pollution as people are forced to use cars to get to the city's they work in rather than replying on city public transport.

So do you suggest it's better to destroy the exisiting countryside but leave brownfield sites and decaying pubs such as the pub in this article to rot and be vandalised rather than using them for housing?

Typical igorant small minded view, mate.
ignorant and small minded!!!!! try running a business and earning a living in our overcrowded , outdated cities....

There are plenty of areas we could build on with some thought without destroying any of our way of life.... The problem we have is out country is run by complete numpties devoid of any common sense and its crushing us all..... Next time you out count how many cows and chickens you see in fields compared to those you don't.... Most farmers I know now only farm Industrial units and land they get a subsidy on so I think you need to just check your facts.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]I have flown over the UK and do live in a city (hence my screen name). Every year more countryside is lost to development which has disasterous consequences to the environment and the look and feel of the countryside. There is also more pressure on exisiting rural infrastructure and an increase in pollution as people are forced to use cars to get to the city's they work in rather than replying on city public transport. So do you suggest it's better to destroy the exisiting countryside but leave brownfield sites and decaying pubs such as the pub in this article to rot and be vandalised rather than using them for housing? Typical igorant small minded view, mate.[/p][/quote]ignorant and small minded!!!!! try running a business and earning a living in our overcrowded , outdated cities.... There are plenty of areas we could build on with some thought without destroying any of our way of life.... The problem we have is out country is run by complete numpties devoid of any common sense and its crushing us all..... Next time you out count how many cows and chickens you see in fields compared to those you don't.... Most farmers I know now only farm Industrial units and land they get a subsidy on so I think you need to just check your facts. motorizer
  • Score: -4

1:45pm Mon 3 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
I totally agree with you I never drink, what is the point of it? I don't get why people pay money to actually drink poison it makes me laugh, sad old pot bellied fools with there beetroot faces and sallow skin. Why not just get some meths and be done with it.
I prefer a nice cup of coffee with a helping of reality.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you I never drink, what is the point of it? I don't get why people pay money to actually drink poison it makes me laugh, sad old pot bellied fools with there beetroot faces and sallow skin. Why not just get some meths and be done with it. I prefer a nice cup of coffee with a helping of reality. bigfella777
  • Score: -9

2:27pm Mon 3 Feb 14

seany1966 says...

What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters .. seany1966
  • Score: 6

2:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished?
then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub?
So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development?
If the pub were a thriving business it would not have closed four years ago.

So often people, who have never used the pub, complain when one is closed, and if a 'stay of execution' is obtained, they use it for a few weeks before it is 'back to normal' and not making a profit.

Pubs were most popular before TV, and as the number of channels have increased, so has the number of pubs that have closed. Why go there for a pint when you can buy a few cans in the supermarket and drink at home in front of the TV?

The pubs that stay open and thrive are usually ones that do not rely on the drinks trade, but offer good food at an affordable price.

The area has managed without it for four years, but the number of people needing a home has steadily increased.
I did use the pub but certain people bought it then bang wallop it's shut.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: This pub use to be very popular & Denham is fighting to save our pubs so we're led to believe so why are the council giving the green light to it being demolished? then on the development where the ordnance survey buildings were they're going to build guess what? A pub? So why not keep this & re open it then build more welfare/social (sorry) flats in the main development?[/p][/quote]If the pub were a thriving business it would not have closed four years ago. So often people, who have never used the pub, complain when one is closed, and if a 'stay of execution' is obtained, they use it for a few weeks before it is 'back to normal' and not making a profit. Pubs were most popular before TV, and as the number of channels have increased, so has the number of pubs that have closed. Why go there for a pint when you can buy a few cans in the supermarket and drink at home in front of the TV? The pubs that stay open and thrive are usually ones that do not rely on the drinks trade, but offer good food at an affordable price. The area has managed without it for four years, but the number of people needing a home has steadily increased.[/p][/quote]I did use the pub but certain people bought it then bang wallop it's shut. loosehead
  • Score: 3

2:57pm Mon 3 Feb 14

St.Winch70 says...

seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
[quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league..... St.Winch70
  • Score: -4

3:25pm Mon 3 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
How do you know this is a NIMBY?
What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush?
You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what?
Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated?
[quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]How do you know this is a NIMBY? What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush? You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what? Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated? lowe esteem
  • Score: 3

3:32pm Mon 3 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

Zexagon wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
Only if you're stupid
Thanks for reminding us, drinking does make you stupid too.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]Only if you're stupid[/p][/quote]Thanks for reminding us, drinking does make you stupid too. lowe esteem
  • Score: 3

3:35pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Delboy67 says...

Another landmark disappearing. So sad that so many of these buildings are being replaced with dull artless substitutes. An epidemic across the whole city.
Another landmark disappearing. So sad that so many of these buildings are being replaced with dull artless substitutes. An epidemic across the whole city. Delboy67
  • Score: -4

3:45pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Chipster says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
Wow! Life must be an absolute party in your house, what a joyless bore you are. I take it you're a non-smoker, tea-total vegetarian bible-basher who drives any debate into obscurity.
Alcohol taken in moderation causes no ill-effects, binge drinking in excess does. But, it's up to the individual to judge, NOT YOU!
Yes, there are morons out there who cause aggravation to the local community but that said it's not always booze, some are on far more dangerous and illegal substances, and some are on absolutely nothing at all and just want to cause trouble.
Feel free to abstain from alcohol, it's YOUR choice. But don't try and justify your inability to understand others that you call for a total ban and the closure of pubs. They are an integral part of the community whether you like it or not, they also offer employment!
Before you label me with the minority of miscreants my wife is allergic to booze and I drink very little, but enjoy a pint of real ale non the less!
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]Wow! Life must be an absolute party in your house, what a joyless bore you are. I take it you're a non-smoker, tea-total vegetarian bible-basher who drives any debate into obscurity. Alcohol taken in moderation causes no ill-effects, binge drinking in excess does. But, it's up to the individual to judge, NOT YOU! Yes, there are morons out there who cause aggravation to the local community but that said it's not always booze, some are on far more dangerous and illegal substances, and some are on absolutely nothing at all and just want to cause trouble. Feel free to abstain from alcohol, it's YOUR choice. But don't try and justify your inability to understand others that you call for a total ban and the closure of pubs. They are an integral part of the community whether you like it or not, they also offer employment! Before you label me with the minority of miscreants my wife is allergic to booze and I drink very little, but enjoy a pint of real ale non the less! Chipster
  • Score: 10

3:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Dave Juson says...

loosehead wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
What a lot of garbage, Instead of fighting to smoke you attack alcohol trying to make it out to be worse than fags?
I was in the TA RCT we went out together on the weekend & always one of us would be duty driver so no drink driving.
You name excess drinking problems but fail to mention the good effects of moderate drinking like lower cholesterol in your blood stream or if it hadn't been for alcohol most of our ancestors would have died from drinking water.
I worked at BAT & I know the effects of smoking I also know that doctors prescribed smoking to calm the nerves in WW2 instead of giving drugs.
Now you say about fighting? really how many footie games go by with out at least a flare up?
some elements of society don't drink & most of the ones caught rioting & looting weren't under the influence of alcohol some were under the influence but a different form one that's illegal.
Also now with this ridiculous attack on Alcohol by the NHS & people like you how many young drivers smoke & drive(not tobacco)?
it's not alcohol that's the problem as most people can drink moderately & no problem it's the type of people no matter the type of thing they drink,smoke go over the top.
You must remember your youth?
Some men went out to chat up the ladies or at least try to others went out to fight & then you had those who went out to get rat arsed.
Further: as proved by prohibition in the United States, by banning it you retain all the social evils propagated by alcohol, with a terrific diminution of quality and a market completely controlled by criminals.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]What a lot of garbage, Instead of fighting to smoke you attack alcohol trying to make it out to be worse than fags? I was in the TA RCT we went out together on the weekend & always one of us would be duty driver so no drink driving. You name excess drinking problems but fail to mention the good effects of moderate drinking like lower cholesterol in your blood stream or if it hadn't been for alcohol most of our ancestors would have died from drinking water. I worked at BAT & I know the effects of smoking I also know that doctors prescribed smoking to calm the nerves in WW2 instead of giving drugs. Now you say about fighting? really how many footie games go by with out at least a flare up? some elements of society don't drink & most of the ones caught rioting & looting weren't under the influence of alcohol some were under the influence but a different form one that's illegal. Also now with this ridiculous attack on Alcohol by the NHS & people like you how many young drivers smoke & drive(not tobacco)? it's not alcohol that's the problem as most people can drink moderately & no problem it's the type of people no matter the type of thing they drink,smoke go over the top. You must remember your youth? Some men went out to chat up the ladies or at least try to others went out to fight & then you had those who went out to get rat arsed.[/p][/quote]Further: as proved by prohibition in the United States, by banning it you retain all the social evils propagated by alcohol, with a terrific diminution of quality and a market completely controlled by criminals. Dave Juson
  • Score: 5

4:07pm Mon 3 Feb 14

skeptik says...

Vanishing countryside? Land registry and other sources give the area of land with buildings, roads, paved areas etc as somewhere in the region of 5.5% of the total area Scotland even less. The problem is we all want to live in towns. Look it up.
Vanishing countryside? Land registry and other sources give the area of land with buildings, roads, paved areas etc as somewhere in the region of 5.5% of the total area Scotland even less. The problem is we all want to live in towns. Look it up. skeptik
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Mon 3 Feb 14

hantslass says...

That pub has stood there longer than any new built house will ever last . the building companies are laughing they dont build houses they throw them up paper thin walls nine houses in the space of a pub , i wouldn't give tuppence for one ,and as for the builders they dont care about how many families get squeezed into such small spaces as long as they have made a fortune. they may fool the government that they are helping but we know the truth its just themselves they are helping greedy b......
That pub has stood there longer than any new built house will ever last . the building companies are laughing they dont build houses they throw them up paper thin walls nine houses in the space of a pub , i wouldn't give tuppence for one ,and as for the builders they dont care about how many families get squeezed into such small spaces as long as they have made a fortune. they may fool the government that they are helping but we know the truth its just themselves they are helping greedy b...... hantslass
  • Score: 9

4:49pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Linesman says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk.
Presumably you did not read the post to which I was responding.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk.[/p][/quote]Presumably you did not read the post to which I was responding. Linesman
  • Score: 0

4:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Linesman says...

KSO16R wrote:
Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
I would be surprised if much of the food etc we eat or drink originates from this country. Cows in fields? Your having alaugh. A bit more research needed i think to find out where the food on your plate really comes from.
I suppose that you look no further than your local TESCO.

Have you never visited the countryside? Never seen a cow in a field?

I know that there are such things as Battery Chicken, where they are kept in confined spaces, but that is not the case with cattle, or sheep.

No!. I am not 'Having a Laugh.' In fact the reverse. I am near to tears at the thought that I have worked all my life, and paid my taxes, a large portion of which was 'alleged' to have been used for education, and then I read comments like yours.
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]I would be surprised if much of the food etc we eat or drink originates from this country. Cows in fields? Your having alaugh. A bit more research needed i think to find out where the food on your plate really comes from.[/p][/quote]I suppose that you look no further than your local TESCO. Have you never visited the countryside? Never seen a cow in a field? I know that there are such things as Battery Chicken, where they are kept in confined spaces, but that is not the case with cattle, or sheep. No!. I am not 'Having a Laugh.' In fact the reverse. I am near to tears at the thought that I have worked all my life, and paid my taxes, a large portion of which was 'alleged' to have been used for education, and then I read comments like yours. Linesman
  • Score: 1

5:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now. massimoosti
  • Score: 9

6:05pm Mon 3 Feb 14

southamptonadi says...

massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run. southamptonadi
  • Score: 1

6:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs.
Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs .
the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs?
Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them.
A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent.
but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit.
The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries.
You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream.
at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket?
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs. Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs . the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs? Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them. A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent. but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit. The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries. You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream. at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket? loosehead
  • Score: 4

6:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zexagon says...

St.Winch70 wrote:
seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league.....[/p][/quote]What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest? Zexagon
  • Score: 0

6:43pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zexagon says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
Only if you're stupid
Thanks for reminding us, drinking does make you stupid too.
Does it really?
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]Only if you're stupid[/p][/quote]Thanks for reminding us, drinking does make you stupid too.[/p][/quote]Does it really? Zexagon
  • Score: -2

6:46pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zexagon says...

bigfella777 wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
I totally agree with you I never drink, what is the point of it? I don't get why people pay money to actually drink poison it makes me laugh, sad old pot bellied fools with there beetroot faces and sallow skin. Why not just get some meths and be done with it.
I prefer a nice cup of coffee with a helping of reality.
Non drinking bicycle rider? You sound quite a catch , how did you ever get a wife?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you I never drink, what is the point of it? I don't get why people pay money to actually drink poison it makes me laugh, sad old pot bellied fools with there beetroot faces and sallow skin. Why not just get some meths and be done with it. I prefer a nice cup of coffee with a helping of reality.[/p][/quote]Non drinking bicycle rider? You sound quite a catch , how did you ever get a wife? Zexagon
  • Score: 2

6:58pm Mon 3 Feb 14

St.Winch70 says...

Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?
It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league.....[/p][/quote]What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?[/p][/quote]It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players. St.Winch70
  • Score: 0

7:26pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zexagon says...

St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?
It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.
Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league.....[/p][/quote]What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?[/p][/quote]It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.[/p][/quote]Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them Zexagon
  • Score: 0

7:28pm Mon 3 Feb 14

martin65 says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking...
Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking..
After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.
If cigarettes and booze were outlawed tomorrow the government would have to make up the 70% tax on both elsewhere probably with income tax rises which would be disastrous for the economy that's why it will never happen.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: Hopefully this Government will soon realise that ALCOHOL is a bigger problem than smoking... Then remove the public houses, and close off licences making it virtually illegal to drink booze. Just like they are doing with smoking.. After all, Alcohol leads to drink-driving accidents, fights, falls, liver and heart disease, marriage break ups, and lot more evils than any smoking causes.[/p][/quote]If cigarettes and booze were outlawed tomorrow the government would have to make up the 70% tax on both elsewhere probably with income tax rises which would be disastrous for the economy that's why it will never happen. martin65
  • Score: 5

7:31pm Mon 3 Feb 14

southamptonadi says...

loosehead wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs.
Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs .
the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs?
Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them.
A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent.
but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit.
The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries.
You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream.
at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket?
Please Re read my post I never mentioned drugs in the thatch. I drank in there too. I said I went in the bush once and saw it.

I also said blame the OWNERS so you totally agreed to my post

I mentioned it because massimoosti had not. And as it Was around the corner was appropriate to this story. You gets lots of decent nice people in all sorts of pubs does not mean it's not rundown and rough I never said anything about the customers. The better run pubs seem to be coping was the gist of my be it brewery owned or free house.read the latest camra mag, I know a few successful pubs which have changed hands and gone real downhill. I blame punch. Hate the way they treat landlords. Utter disgrace
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs. Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs . the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs? Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them. A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent. but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit. The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries. You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream. at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket?[/p][/quote]Please Re read my post I never mentioned drugs in the thatch. I drank in there too. I said I went in the bush once and saw it. I also said blame the OWNERS so you totally agreed to my post I mentioned it because massimoosti had not. And as it Was around the corner was appropriate to this story. You gets lots of decent nice people in all sorts of pubs does not mean it's not rundown and rough I never said anything about the customers. The better run pubs seem to be coping was the gist of my be it brewery owned or free house.read the latest camra mag, I know a few successful pubs which have changed hands and gone real downhill. I blame punch. Hate the way they treat landlords. Utter disgrace southamptonadi
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

St.Winch70 says...

Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?
It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.
Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them
They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year....
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league.....[/p][/quote]What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?[/p][/quote]It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.[/p][/quote]Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them[/p][/quote]They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year.... St.Winch70
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

What a great shame, you get rid of a pub and end up with social housing on your doorstep. What a trade.
What a great shame, you get rid of a pub and end up with social housing on your doorstep. What a trade. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 1

7:56pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zexagon says...

St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?
It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.
Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them
They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year....
Ian and Pete bush, two great finishers. Good goalkeeper in Gary Rose. They had a good team spirit too.Did you play ?
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league.....[/p][/quote]What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?[/p][/quote]It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.[/p][/quote]Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them[/p][/quote]They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year....[/p][/quote]Ian and Pete bush, two great finishers. Good goalkeeper in Gary Rose. They had a good team spirit too.Did you play ? Zexagon
  • Score: 1

8:06pm Mon 3 Feb 14

St.Winch70 says...

Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?
It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.
Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them
They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year....
Ian and Pete bush, two great finishers. Good goalkeeper in Gary Rose. They had a good team spirit too.Did you play ?
Gary Rose was not their original keeper, though he was very good. Yes I agree about the Bush brothers - They also had a guy called Labram that played, little lad who was extremely gifted, but not motivated to play seriously on Saturdays.

Yes I did play, but never against Tops.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league.....[/p][/quote]What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?[/p][/quote]It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.[/p][/quote]Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them[/p][/quote]They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year....[/p][/quote]Ian and Pete bush, two great finishers. Good goalkeeper in Gary Rose. They had a good team spirit too.Did you play ?[/p][/quote]Gary Rose was not their original keeper, though he was very good. Yes I agree about the Bush brothers - They also had a guy called Labram that played, little lad who was extremely gifted, but not motivated to play seriously on Saturdays. Yes I did play, but never against Tops. St.Winch70
  • Score: 0

8:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zexagon says...

St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
seany1966 wrote:
What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..
Mickey Mouse league.....
What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?
It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.
Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them
They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year....
Ian and Pete bush, two great finishers. Good goalkeeper in Gary Rose. They had a good team spirit too.Did you play ?
Gary Rose was not their original keeper, though he was very good. Yes I agree about the Bush brothers - They also had a guy called Labram that played, little lad who was extremely gifted, but not motivated to play seriously on Saturdays.

Yes I did play, but never against Tops.
Richard labram I think,remember the surname. Ian and Pete were at Totton for a while. Both scored goals in the games that they did play but manager Eddie Harper had his favourites and they left
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: What a shame , was a great pub in the early days , I used to play for football for the pub when it was Tops in the late 80s early 90's , Lovely quiet abode ... :0)... great memories and full of characters ..[/p][/quote]Mickey Mouse league.....[/p][/quote]What was the top non league Sunday league out of interest?[/p][/quote]It's never been The Commercial Houses league......in that period you would've found a few very good teams in the Southampton Sunday Senior am and pm - populated by good Wessex league players.[/p][/quote]Tops were a very good side to be fair to him ,we had southern league players and always had good games against them[/p][/quote]They had two decent players maximum - the rest, average and less, but good enough to win Mickey Mouse leagues year after year....[/p][/quote]Ian and Pete bush, two great finishers. Good goalkeeper in Gary Rose. They had a good team spirit too.Did you play ?[/p][/quote]Gary Rose was not their original keeper, though he was very good. Yes I agree about the Bush brothers - They also had a guy called Labram that played, little lad who was extremely gifted, but not motivated to play seriously on Saturdays. Yes I did play, but never against Tops.[/p][/quote]Richard labram I think,remember the surname. Ian and Pete were at Totton for a while. Both scored goals in the games that they did play but manager Eddie Harper had his favourites and they left Zexagon
  • Score: 0

8:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Down to Earth & Sensible says...

By the "Powers that be" allowing not only the Supermarkets but virtually every corner shop to sell alcohol;added to not allowing smoking in a Pub ( who ever thought that would happen! ?) ,added to extortionate and unrealistic business rates and a general squeeze on most people disposable income equaled a "Death Nail" for most traditional pubs.Therefor not exactly a surprise and in a couple of years time there will not be any traditional Pubs left. Incidentally: I used to own a Freehouse which today would not be worth anything as a business only "scrap-land-value" so glad I sold when i did.
By the "Powers that be" allowing not only the Supermarkets but virtually every corner shop to sell alcohol;added to not allowing smoking in a Pub ( who ever thought that would happen! ?) ,added to extortionate and unrealistic business rates and a general squeeze on most people disposable income equaled a "Death Nail" for most traditional pubs.Therefor not exactly a surprise and in a couple of years time there will not be any traditional Pubs left. Incidentally: I used to own a Freehouse which today would not be worth anything as a business only "scrap-land-value" so glad I sold when i did. Down to Earth & Sensible
  • Score: 0

9:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loosehead says...

southamptonadi wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs.
Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs .
the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs?
Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them.
A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent.
but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit.
The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries.
You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream.
at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket?
Please Re read my post I never mentioned drugs in the thatch. I drank in there too. I said I went in the bush once and saw it.

I also said blame the OWNERS so you totally agreed to my post

I mentioned it because massimoosti had not. And as it Was around the corner was appropriate to this story. You gets lots of decent nice people in all sorts of pubs does not mean it's not rundown and rough I never said anything about the customers. The better run pubs seem to be coping was the gist of my be it brewery owned or free house.read the latest camra mag, I know a few successful pubs which have changed hands and gone real downhill. I blame punch. Hate the way they treat landlords. Utter disgrace
I agree about Punch & all the companies that now seem to own the pubs.
I agree with you about real ale & I would love to see more pubs become free of the companies & if possible Micro breweries with families running it as it use to be
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs. Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs . the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs? Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them. A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent. but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit. The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries. You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream. at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket?[/p][/quote]Please Re read my post I never mentioned drugs in the thatch. I drank in there too. I said I went in the bush once and saw it. I also said blame the OWNERS so you totally agreed to my post I mentioned it because massimoosti had not. And as it Was around the corner was appropriate to this story. You gets lots of decent nice people in all sorts of pubs does not mean it's not rundown and rough I never said anything about the customers. The better run pubs seem to be coping was the gist of my be it brewery owned or free house.read the latest camra mag, I know a few successful pubs which have changed hands and gone real downhill. I blame punch. Hate the way they treat landlords. Utter disgrace[/p][/quote]I agree about Punch & all the companies that now seem to own the pubs. I agree with you about real ale & I would love to see more pubs become free of the companies & if possible Micro breweries with families running it as it use to be loosehead
  • Score: 1

9:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

motorizer says...

lowe esteem wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
How do you know this is a NIMBY?
What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush?
You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what?
Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated?
I would comment if you had actualy read what I said about this but for others who do not simply jump in with out thinking...... its not that I disgree with building in our cities but we simply cannot cope with more cars and population in these areas.... Our road system stems from the fifties...Our cities are run by idiots.. so when you see a large four bedroom house replaced with a block of 20 flats you think we can just carry on like that.... Try going anywhere in town these days and then imagine it in 20 years if we persue this stupid policy... As for the pubs place, of course Iwould rather see a playground for kids or a new medical centre but people like you who can't see beyond their nose only think of housing and the further pressure it outs on our stretched cities and resources... And for you info i think , for the land we populate in ths country, we are masively over populated
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]How do you know this is a NIMBY? What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush? You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what? Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated?[/p][/quote]I would comment if you had actualy read what I said about this but for others who do not simply jump in with out thinking...... its not that I disgree with building in our cities but we simply cannot cope with more cars and population in these areas.... Our road system stems from the fifties...Our cities are run by idiots.. so when you see a large four bedroom house replaced with a block of 20 flats you think we can just carry on like that.... Try going anywhere in town these days and then imagine it in 20 years if we persue this stupid policy... As for the pubs place, of course Iwould rather see a playground for kids or a new medical centre but people like you who can't see beyond their nose only think of housing and the further pressure it outs on our stretched cities and resources... And for you info i think , for the land we populate in ths country, we are masively over populated motorizer
  • Score: -2

9:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Graeme Harrison says...

loosehead wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs.
Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs .
the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs?
Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them.
A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent.
but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit.
The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries.
You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream.
at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket?
Please Re read my post I never mentioned drugs in the thatch. I drank in there too. I said I went in the bush once and saw it.

I also said blame the OWNERS so you totally agreed to my post

I mentioned it because massimoosti had not. And as it Was around the corner was appropriate to this story. You gets lots of decent nice people in all sorts of pubs does not mean it's not rundown and rough I never said anything about the customers. The better run pubs seem to be coping was the gist of my be it brewery owned or free house.read the latest camra mag, I know a few successful pubs which have changed hands and gone real downhill. I blame punch. Hate the way they treat landlords. Utter disgrace
I agree about Punch & all the companies that now seem to own the pubs.
I agree with you about real ale & I would love to see more pubs become free of the companies & if possible Micro breweries with families running it as it use to be
And, no doubt, all the patrons would be stout-hearted sons of toil who, after a long day grafting in the **** mines (rose-tinted safety goggles firmly clamped over their eyes to prevent reality from intruding), would call into their local boozer (props: Den and Angie Watts) for a half of shandy before cycling home where his wife (who, naturally, would not work) and 2.4 children (all of whom would have a healthy dose of ringworm) would be waiting for his arrival so that they could together sit around a table groaning with 54 varieties of Spam.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]you say the old thatch? I've drank in there I know a lot of regulars who drank in there & can't remember seeing any illegal drugs. Now the bush you had a bar where yes I guess there was drugs . the thatch was prone to flooding because of the poor main pipes under Tebourba way & Romsey road & then it suddenly had a spate of burning roofs? Look don't blame the pubs blame the companies that own them. A pub if it was treated fairly by the owners(companies) would sell cheaper beer & allow the tenant to be able to pay the rent. but after screwing the tenants for every penny they then sell them to the likes of Tesco or crammed together houses to make a quick one off profit. The only way we could get back to the great community pubs I once knew is to get the pubs owned by the Landlords & they could then barter with the breweries or set up Micro breweries. You would be very careful who uses your home & business but to knock them all down is a supermarkets dream. at least in a pub you can keep an eye out for under age drinking who looks at who's drinking the cans from a supermarket?[/p][/quote]Please Re read my post I never mentioned drugs in the thatch. I drank in there too. I said I went in the bush once and saw it. I also said blame the OWNERS so you totally agreed to my post I mentioned it because massimoosti had not. And as it Was around the corner was appropriate to this story. You gets lots of decent nice people in all sorts of pubs does not mean it's not rundown and rough I never said anything about the customers. The better run pubs seem to be coping was the gist of my be it brewery owned or free house.read the latest camra mag, I know a few successful pubs which have changed hands and gone real downhill. I blame punch. Hate the way they treat landlords. Utter disgrace[/p][/quote]I agree about Punch & all the companies that now seem to own the pubs. I agree with you about real ale & I would love to see more pubs become free of the companies & if possible Micro breweries with families running it as it use to be[/p][/quote]And, no doubt, all the patrons would be stout-hearted sons of toil who, after a long day grafting in the **** mines (rose-tinted safety goggles firmly clamped over their eyes to prevent reality from intruding), would call into their local boozer (props: Den and Angie Watts) for a half of shandy before cycling home where his wife (who, naturally, would not work) and 2.4 children (all of whom would have a healthy dose of ringworm) would be waiting for his arrival so that they could together sit around a table groaning with 54 varieties of Spam. Graeme Harrison
  • Score: -1

11:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sotonboy84 says...

motorizer wrote:
lowe esteem wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
How do you know this is a NIMBY?
What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush?
You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what?
Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated?
I would comment if you had actualy read what I said about this but for others who do not simply jump in with out thinking...... its not that I disgree with building in our cities but we simply cannot cope with more cars and population in these areas.... Our road system stems from the fifties...Our cities are run by idiots.. so when you see a large four bedroom house replaced with a block of 20 flats you think we can just carry on like that.... Try going anywhere in town these days and then imagine it in 20 years if we persue this stupid policy... As for the pubs place, of course Iwould rather see a playground for kids or a new medical centre but people like you who can't see beyond their nose only think of housing and the further pressure it outs on our stretched cities and resources... And for you info i think , for the land we populate in ths country, we are masively over populated
The answer is right in front of you. Improve & update road systems & infrastructure in cities, as all cities do & we prevent the countryside from being destroyed. You cannot use Southampton's evidently bad road system as a blueprint argument for building on the countryside over city brownfield sites. Very weak argument.
[quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]How do you know this is a NIMBY? What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush? You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what? Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated?[/p][/quote]I would comment if you had actualy read what I said about this but for others who do not simply jump in with out thinking...... its not that I disgree with building in our cities but we simply cannot cope with more cars and population in these areas.... Our road system stems from the fifties...Our cities are run by idiots.. so when you see a large four bedroom house replaced with a block of 20 flats you think we can just carry on like that.... Try going anywhere in town these days and then imagine it in 20 years if we persue this stupid policy... As for the pubs place, of course Iwould rather see a playground for kids or a new medical centre but people like you who can't see beyond their nose only think of housing and the further pressure it outs on our stretched cities and resources... And for you info i think , for the land we populate in ths country, we are masively over populated[/p][/quote]The answer is right in front of you. Improve & update road systems & infrastructure in cities, as all cities do & we prevent the countryside from being destroyed. You cannot use Southampton's evidently bad road system as a blueprint argument for building on the countryside over city brownfield sites. Very weak argument. sotonboy84
  • Score: 3

11:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

southy says...

southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again.
The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again. The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community. southy
  • Score: 3

7:05am Tue 4 Feb 14

skeptik says...

Some years ago a pub on the outskirts of Winchester a house in free hands with a reasonable trade, not reasonable enough to make money, the owner requested permission to revoke the licence convert to a private dwelling and sell up - not a bad place to sell. The press were indignant and a petition of thousands soon presented - the landlords argument - had they all bought one half pint of beer a month instead of signing a petition we might not be here. Oddly enough the trade picked up and he sold up with goodwill.
Some years ago a pub on the outskirts of Winchester a house in free hands with a reasonable trade, not reasonable enough to make money, the owner requested permission to revoke the licence convert to a private dwelling and sell up - not a bad place to sell. The press were indignant and a petition of thousands soon presented - the landlords argument - had they all bought one half pint of beer a month instead of signing a petition we might not be here. Oddly enough the trade picked up and he sold up with goodwill. skeptik
  • Score: 2

8:04am Tue 4 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Linesman wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee?

Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it?

Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk?

If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live?

Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding?

Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on?

I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes?

I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside.

If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing.

If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.
Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk.
Oh of course not, because each time a square mile of countrside is built on, 10 more square miles are 'planted'... Idiot.

Take a look at the below from the Campaign to Protect Rural England website.

Our land is running out. Nobody is doing this on purpose, but we are chipping away at it and covering up around 25 square miles every year. Over half the countryside is now affected by urban disturbance.

http://www.cpre.org.

uk/what-we-do/countr

yside/landscapes/the

-issues
Oh, well I guess if you just say "idiot" at the end of your, erm, point, all's well, eh.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]Have you ever wondered where the milk comes from that you have in your tea or coffee? Have you ever wondered what the cows, that produce that milk, eat and where they get it? Did you know that butter and cheese are made from milk? If it is not against your faith, if you have one, have you ever wondered where the pigs that produce your bacon or pork joints live? Did it ever cross your mind that sheep, that produce wool and lamb joints need somewhere to live and need feeding? Presumably you eat eggs, and probably have a roast chicken, or a chicken curry once in a while. Did it cross your mind to ask where they live and what they feed on? I guess that you may have toast for breakfast, and possibly take sandwiches to work, or call in for a Big Mac once in a while. Did you ever wonder what bread was made from, and where the cereal crops were grown? What about corn flakes? I will probably surprise you when I tell you that NONE of these animals eat, drink and sleep in cities. They do not nip along to a supermarket to be fed, they live in the countryside - those big green spaces that you see when you fly over the countryside. If you build on these green, open spaces, you reduce the area that produces food for a population that is continually increasing. If sotonboy84 is a NIMBY, then heaven only knows what category you would come under, but it would not be in a group that has an IQ in double figures.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure what point you think you're making here. We all know farming goes on in the countryside. Our countryside is NOT disappearing, contrary to the hysterical ramblings of sotonboy, yourself and your ilk.[/p][/quote]Oh of course not, because each time a square mile of countrside is built on, 10 more square miles are 'planted'... Idiot. Take a look at the below from the Campaign to Protect Rural England website. Our land is running out. Nobody is doing this on purpose, but we are chipping away at it and covering up around 25 square miles every year. Over half the countryside is now affected by urban disturbance. http://www.cpre.org. uk/what-we-do/countr yside/landscapes/the -issues[/p][/quote]Oh, well I guess if you just say "idiot" at the end of your, erm, point, all's well, eh. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -1

8:33am Tue 4 Feb 14

motorizer says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
motorizer wrote:
lowe esteem wrote:
motorizer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.
have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ?

I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities.....

Typical NIMBY...
How do you know this is a NIMBY?
What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush?
You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what?
Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated?
I would comment if you had actualy read what I said about this but for others who do not simply jump in with out thinking...... its not that I disgree with building in our cities but we simply cannot cope with more cars and population in these areas.... Our road system stems from the fifties...Our cities are run by idiots.. so when you see a large four bedroom house replaced with a block of 20 flats you think we can just carry on like that.... Try going anywhere in town these days and then imagine it in 20 years if we persue this stupid policy... As for the pubs place, of course Iwould rather see a playground for kids or a new medical centre but people like you who can't see beyond their nose only think of housing and the further pressure it outs on our stretched cities and resources... And for you info i think , for the land we populate in ths country, we are masively over populated
The answer is right in front of you. Improve & update road systems & infrastructure in cities, as all cities do & we prevent the countryside from being destroyed. You cannot use Southampton's evidently bad road system as a blueprint argument for building on the countryside over city brownfield sites. Very weak argument.
which is my whole point if you bothered to read what i said...... The numpties in charge just keep allowing the building and replacing of single dwellings with multi dwellings and do nothing to make sure we can still operate without being at a standstill for hour on hour, and if you actually have to experience this its getting worse ( a coincidence with the increased housing?)...... There fore if this policy continues then what choice do we have..... My other point is that the road system in this country was pretty much designed in the 40 and 50's and no mattr what improvements we do it will never be enough to cope with modern day traffic.....
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]motorizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: These are the sites that should be used for housing and meeting local housing targets and NOT building on our fastly dissapearing important countryside.[/p][/quote]have you ever actually flown over this country nd seen how much of you 'precious' country side there is ? I guess you neither live,work or have to exsist in the city where over development and the policy of cramming everyone in is grinding everything to a halt and making it near on mpossible to commute and travel in the cities..... Typical NIMBY...[/p][/quote]How do you know this is a NIMBY? What would you prefer in this pubs place then, a little bit of country, a bush? You make no sense, you just say that cities are crowded, and that the 'country' is open-so what? Do YOU think? We're overpopulated? Under populated?[/p][/quote]I would comment if you had actualy read what I said about this but for others who do not simply jump in with out thinking...... its not that I disgree with building in our cities but we simply cannot cope with more cars and population in these areas.... Our road system stems from the fifties...Our cities are run by idiots.. so when you see a large four bedroom house replaced with a block of 20 flats you think we can just carry on like that.... Try going anywhere in town these days and then imagine it in 20 years if we persue this stupid policy... As for the pubs place, of course Iwould rather see a playground for kids or a new medical centre but people like you who can't see beyond their nose only think of housing and the further pressure it outs on our stretched cities and resources... And for you info i think , for the land we populate in ths country, we are masively over populated[/p][/quote]The answer is right in front of you. Improve & update road systems & infrastructure in cities, as all cities do & we prevent the countryside from being destroyed. You cannot use Southampton's evidently bad road system as a blueprint argument for building on the countryside over city brownfield sites. Very weak argument.[/p][/quote]which is my whole point if you bothered to read what i said...... The numpties in charge just keep allowing the building and replacing of single dwellings with multi dwellings and do nothing to make sure we can still operate without being at a standstill for hour on hour, and if you actually have to experience this its getting worse ( a coincidence with the increased housing?)...... There fore if this policy continues then what choice do we have..... My other point is that the road system in this country was pretty much designed in the 40 and 50's and no mattr what improvements we do it will never be enough to cope with modern day traffic..... motorizer
  • Score: -1

11:25am Tue 4 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

southy wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again.
The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.
Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections.

Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing".

Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again. The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.[/p][/quote]Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections. Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing". Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others. massimoosti
  • Score: 0

3:33pm Tue 4 Feb 14

St.Winch70 says...

massimoosti wrote:
southy wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again.
The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.
Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections.

Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing".

Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.
Apart from the last paragraph - what utter tripe!
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again. The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.[/p][/quote]Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections. Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing". Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.[/p][/quote]Apart from the last paragraph - what utter tripe! St.Winch70
  • Score: 0

3:38pm Tue 4 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

You really reckon............ If you're ITK you'll know who I mean, how connected they are and what events they organise. And given their previous here and abroad do you really imagine they not fixed on the radar ?
You really reckon............ If you're ITK you'll know who I mean, how connected they are and what events they organise. And given their previous here and abroad do you really imagine they not fixed on the radar ? massimoosti
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6:13pm Tue 4 Feb 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

massimoosti wrote:
You really reckon............ If you're ITK you'll know who I mean, how connected they are and what events they organise. And given their previous here and abroad do you really imagine they not fixed on the radar ?
spooky goings on ,nudge,nudge,wink,wi
nk.
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: You really reckon............ If you're ITK you'll know who I mean, how connected they are and what events they organise. And given their previous here and abroad do you really imagine they not fixed on the radar ?[/p][/quote]spooky goings on ,nudge,nudge,wink,wi nk. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.
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8:34pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

massimoosti wrote:
southy wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again.
The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.
Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections.

Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing".

Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.
Freak. You don't know what your on about m8,
The events hosted are charity fund raising days where members of the community rally round to raise money for a charity, the saints pub alongside the millbrook community raised £10k for the families of the 2 firemen who tragically lost their lives in Shirley Towers.
They"ve raised loads for terminallly ill children too, So Bloody good going and good luck to them I say!
Saints is a gem, I reckon it's here to stay.
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again. The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.[/p][/quote]Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections. Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing". Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.[/p][/quote]Freak. You don't know what your on about m8, The events hosted are charity fund raising days where members of the community rally round to raise money for a charity, the saints pub alongside the millbrook community raised £10k for the families of the 2 firemen who tragically lost their lives in Shirley Towers. They"ve raised loads for terminallly ill children too, So Bloody good going and good luck to them I say! Saints is a gem, I reckon it's here to stay. Ronnie G
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8:38pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Ronnie G says...

Anyway back to topic, I thought the Co-op purchased this site???
Anyway back to topic, I thought the Co-op purchased this site??? Ronnie G
  • Score: 0

9:00pm Tue 4 Feb 14

loosehead says...

Ronnie G wrote:
Anyway back to topic, I thought the Co-op purchased this site???
no there was a rumour it was Tesco's
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: Anyway back to topic, I thought the Co-op purchased this site???[/p][/quote]no there was a rumour it was Tesco's loosehead
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9:14pm Tue 4 Feb 14

massimoosti says...

Ronnie G wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
southy wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again.
The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.
Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections.

Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing".

Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.
Freak. You don't know what your on about m8,
The events hosted are charity fund raising days where members of the community rally round to raise money for a charity, the saints pub alongside the millbrook community raised £10k for the families of the 2 firemen who tragically lost their lives in Shirley Towers.
They"ve raised loads for terminallly ill children too, So Bloody good going and good luck to them I say!
Saints is a gem, I reckon it's here to stay.
Agree 100% people like Oz, Eug and going wider Gilly over the park have done wonders for the community and turned a boozer that could have been in Shameless into a hub of good with regulars who do loads to help those less fortunate (MGT, WOB etc)

Which is why Im sayin'
[quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again. The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.[/p][/quote]Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections. Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing". Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.[/p][/quote]Freak. You don't know what your on about m8, The events hosted are charity fund raising days where members of the community rally round to raise money for a charity, the saints pub alongside the millbrook community raised £10k for the families of the 2 firemen who tragically lost their lives in Shirley Towers. They"ve raised loads for terminallly ill children too, So Bloody good going and good luck to them I say! Saints is a gem, I reckon it's here to stay.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% people like Oz, Eug and going wider Gilly over the park have done wonders for the community and turned a boozer that could have been in Shameless into a hub of good with regulars who do loads to help those less fortunate (MGT, WOB etc) Which is why Im sayin' massimoosti
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3:38pm Thu 6 Feb 14

lisa whitemore says...

massimoosti wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
southy wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone.

No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.
Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown.

I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back.

A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful.

If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.
Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again.
The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.
Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections.

Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing".

Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.
Freak. You don't know what your on about m8,
The events hosted are charity fund raising days where members of the community rally round to raise money for a charity, the saints pub alongside the millbrook community raised £10k for the families of the 2 firemen who tragically lost their lives in Shirley Towers.
They"ve raised loads for terminallly ill children too, So Bloody good going and good luck to them I say!
Saints is a gem, I reckon it's here to stay.
Agree 100% people like Oz, Eug and going wider Gilly over the park have done wonders for the community and turned a boozer that could have been in Shameless into a hub of good with regulars who do loads to help those less fortunate (MGT, WOB etc)

Which is why Im sayin'
Great Pub was Maybush in its Day, Got some great memories with great people. But it had its day! I Thought it was bought by co op too? Now our estate has The Best Pub in Southampton yes i mean The Saints, its the Heart of Our Community, Long May it Stay!!
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Blacksmiths, Maybush, Bittern, Bush, Bricklayers, Bullseye, Bridge Tavern, Elephant and Castle, Oddfellows, Woodman............. all gone. No wonder so many drug dealers work from home now.[/p][/quote]Exactly and three of them and one you forgot, the old thatch are all in spitting distance of maybush corner and are all now closed. Must be a reason. Most of those in your list were once good pubs but in their later years were rundown. I went in the bush once, they were openly dealing and taking drugs at the bar. Never did go back. A lot of people going on about pubs closing. It's all about the owners and management. I drink in a few quality drinking pubs where there is no food yet they are successful. If you go up the road I really don't know how the Salisbury arms and the Windsor castle are still open. Went out at ten o'clock on a Saturday night the other week, they were both shut. The wadworths pub around the corner is doing well but once again that's well run.[/p][/quote]Woolpack, Railway Guard, Hive, Volunteer, Sun, Sailors Return, Anchor and Hope, Star and Garter, Kings Arms, Amphill, Enterprise, Royal Oak, Swan (Fighting ****), Boundary and few more all gone never to be seen again. The Maybush as it was first called was build in the 60's and like the Saints was built on top where a Piggery use to be, glad Osborn got hold of the Saints at lest I know he will try and keep it there and running as a pub. And I don't drink, Pubs are very important places for a community.[/p][/quote]Only problem is that the saints is now known as the frequented venue of some of the city's higher end businessmen and don't help themselves by allowing the "co" hosting of events by those with proper previous convictions and international connections. Common sense would wink towards "forget the high bar takings on these days and consider the unwanted attention and surveillance its obviously drawing". Saints is a gem for the community and would be a shame to see that go the same way as many others.[/p][/quote]Freak. You don't know what your on about m8, The events hosted are charity fund raising days where members of the community rally round to raise money for a charity, the saints pub alongside the millbrook community raised £10k for the families of the 2 firemen who tragically lost their lives in Shirley Towers. They"ve raised loads for terminallly ill children too, So Bloody good going and good luck to them I say! Saints is a gem, I reckon it's here to stay.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% people like Oz, Eug and going wider Gilly over the park have done wonders for the community and turned a boozer that could have been in Shameless into a hub of good with regulars who do loads to help those less fortunate (MGT, WOB etc) Which is why Im sayin'[/p][/quote]Great Pub was Maybush in its Day, Got some great memories with great people. But it had its day! I Thought it was bought by co op too? Now our estate has The Best Pub in Southampton yes i mean The Saints, its the Heart of Our Community, Long May it Stay!! lisa whitemore
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10:56am Fri 7 Feb 14

southamptonadi says...

loosehead wrote:
Ronnie G wrote:
Anyway back to topic, I thought the Co-op purchased this site???
no there was a rumour it was Tesco's
Southern co-op owned it. dont know if they still do, I was quite surprised aswell I was under the impresion that tesco were moving into a store on the new estate, probaly why co-op wanted to move into a new store as the one they have on the corner is rubbish which is why the co op group sold it too southern. worst store in southampton.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronnie G[/bold] wrote: Anyway back to topic, I thought the Co-op purchased this site???[/p][/quote]no there was a rumour it was Tesco's[/p][/quote]Southern co-op owned it. dont know if they still do, I was quite surprised aswell I was under the impresion that tesco were moving into a store on the new estate, probaly why co-op wanted to move into a new store as the one they have on the corner is rubbish which is why the co op group sold it too southern. worst store in southampton. southamptonadi
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11:02pm Mon 10 Feb 14

boxerfreak says...

The pub maybe gone but the drugs and people who deal them and people who own these place just set up again elsewhere in another pub and give that one a bad rep
The pub maybe gone but the drugs and people who deal them and people who own these place just set up again elsewhere in another pub and give that one a bad rep boxerfreak
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12:02am Sat 22 Feb 14

Pobinr says...

If we didn't have mass immigration we woldn't need more & more homes crammed into this small island.
Poland has half the population density of UK & Romania a third!
Madness.
VOTE UKIP
If we didn't have mass immigration we woldn't need more & more homes crammed into this small island. Poland has half the population density of UK & Romania a third! Madness. VOTE UKIP Pobinr
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3:36pm Mon 3 Mar 14

bony tony says...

yes vote ukip if you want to lose all your employment rights maternity rights
pay higher taxes and be brain washed into electing a fascist right wing government who by the way are lead by a ex Tory banker, yep ukip for the working man indeed.

Love pubs and real ale
yes vote ukip if you want to lose all your employment rights maternity rights pay higher taxes and be brain washed into electing a fascist right wing government who by the way are lead by a ex Tory banker, yep ukip for the working man indeed. Love pubs and real ale bony tony
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5:33pm Mon 3 Mar 14

hantslass says...

Pobinr wrote:
If we didn't have mass immigration we woldn't need more & more homes crammed into this small island.
Poland has half the population density of UK & Romania a third!
Madness.
VOTE UKIP
I hundred % agree with you about the polish but i have doubts about voting ukip, they let out and earn more housing benefit from the polish than anyone
[quote][p][bold]Pobinr[/bold] wrote: If we didn't have mass immigration we woldn't need more & more homes crammed into this small island. Poland has half the population density of UK & Romania a third! Madness. VOTE UKIP[/p][/quote]I hundred % agree with you about the polish but i have doubts about voting ukip, they let out and earn more housing benefit from the polish than anyone hantslass
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6:30pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

bony tony wrote:
yes vote ukip if you want to lose all your employment rights maternity rights
pay higher taxes and be brain washed into electing a fascist right wing government who by the way are lead by a ex Tory banker, yep ukip for the working man indeed.

Love pubs and real ale
See you've swallowed the TUSC lying crap about UKIP. I support UKIP and consider myself to be a socialist. Still lets not let the truth get in the way of your stupid ideas eh.
[quote][p][bold]bony tony[/bold] wrote: yes vote ukip if you want to lose all your employment rights maternity rights pay higher taxes and be brain washed into electing a fascist right wing government who by the way are lead by a ex Tory banker, yep ukip for the working man indeed. Love pubs and real ale[/p][/quote]See you've swallowed the TUSC lying crap about UKIP. I support UKIP and consider myself to be a socialist. Still lets not let the truth get in the way of your stupid ideas eh. Inform Al
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