The Dolphin pub in St Denys closes as landlord quits

Andover Advertiser: The Dolphin in St Denys The Dolphin in St Denys

ANOTHER Southampton pub has closed its doors after the landlord quit.

The Dolphin pub in St Denys now lies empty but owner Enterprise Inns have reassured people that it will not be converted into a shop or flats.

The company is searching for a new publican to take it forward.

The pub in Osborne Road South was once a thriving community hub and had a range of events going on throughout the week.

On Friday evenings the former landlord Tim Taylor, who ran the pub with wife Lisa, used to perform magic, and during the week bands regularly came in to play live music.

People in the area have spoken of their sadness that the pub has ceased trading.

Portswood councillor Paul O’Neill said: “I am very sad to see a community pub go. These days pubs are a dwindling resource and it is another chopping away at the threads that hold communities together.

“It is desperate because a lot of people have very fond memories of places like The Dolphin, and I know the pub very well. It was a very friendly and traditional pub.”

Dawn Fildes, landlady of the Junction Inn in St Denys, regularly visited the pub.

She said: “It is very sad for the area that the Dolphin pub has shut. The pub had a really good atmosphere.”

According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600.

A spokesman for Enterprise Inns said: “We can confirm that the Dolphin recently closed following the publican's decision to cease trading.

“We would like to reassure the local community that our aim is for the pub to resume trading at the earliest opportunity.”

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4:57pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin?
Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines?
How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin? Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines? Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: -25

4:58pm Sat 14 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

no money in that game anymore ,.
no money in that game anymore ,. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 28

5:37pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Ciaran says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin?
Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines?
Grow. The Fuck. Up.

Not everything is a political point scoring opportunity - that's what puts normal people off politics.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin? Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines?[/p][/quote]Grow. The Fu[u][/u]ck. Up. Not everything is a political point scoring opportunity - that's what puts normal people off politics. Ciaran
  • Score: 59

6:21pm Sat 14 Jun 14

halibutjackson says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin?
Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines?
This isnt time for politicians the grown ups are talking, go play outside its a nice day.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin? Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines?[/p][/quote]This isnt time for politicians the grown ups are talking, go play outside its a nice day. halibutjackson
  • Score: 26

6:33pm Sat 14 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

When does the mysterious electrical fire in the roof area happen?
When does the mysterious electrical fire in the roof area happen? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 19

7:29pm Sat 14 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin
how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin mickey01
  • Score: 4

7:57pm Sat 14 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

How long before the 'landmark' Tesco Express opens up there???
How long before the 'landmark' Tesco Express opens up there??? 03alpe01
  • Score: 14

9:10pm Sat 14 Jun 14

loosehead says...

According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600.
When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge?
maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.
According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge? maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint. loosehead
  • Score: 45

9:29pm Sat 14 Jun 14

BeyondImagination says...

Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP BeyondImagination
  • Score: -29

10:09pm Sat 14 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs mickey01
  • Score: 38

10:15pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

mickey01 wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs
De-regulation of off licenses and opening times extended should of cancelled each other out. I don't smoke, but the smoking ban in pubs and clubs was the final straw. Shame.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs[/p][/quote]De-regulation of off licenses and opening times extended should of cancelled each other out. I don't smoke, but the smoking ban in pubs and clubs was the final straw. Shame. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 22

10:34pm Sat 14 Jun 14

derek james says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
i don't recall any mass closure of pubs during thatcher's reign, pleanty since blair's smoking ban from 2007
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]i don't recall any mass closure of pubs during thatcher's reign, pleanty since blair's smoking ban from 2007 derek james
  • Score: 32

11:12pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Funk Dr Spock says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
What the hell has this got to do with Thatcher ? Bloody lunatic lefty
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]What the hell has this got to do with Thatcher ? Bloody lunatic lefty Funk Dr Spock
  • Score: 20

5:41am Sun 15 Jun 14

skeptik says...

Michael Heseltine with the lifting of ties and capping the pubs a brewery could run - meant well but it was just another of Tarzans **** ups.
Michael Heseltine with the lifting of ties and capping the pubs a brewery could run - meant well but it was just another of Tarzans **** ups. skeptik
  • Score: -9

7:41am Sun 15 Jun 14

sue1956 says...

derek james wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
i don't recall any mass closure of pubs during thatcher's reign, pleanty since blair's smoking ban from 2007
I agree, the smoking ban has killed the pub trade.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]i don't recall any mass closure of pubs during thatcher's reign, pleanty since blair's smoking ban from 2007[/p][/quote]I agree, the smoking ban has killed the pub trade. sue1956
  • Score: 13

8:07am Sun 15 Jun 14

seriarselyfedup says...

Instead of ~
ANOTHER Southampton pub has closed its doors after the landlord quit.
The Headline could have read ~
ANOTHER Enterprise pub has closed its doors after the landlord quit.
Instead of ~ ANOTHER Southampton pub has closed its doors after the landlord quit. The Headline could have read ~ ANOTHER Enterprise pub has closed its doors after the landlord quit. seriarselyfedup
  • Score: 23

9:03am Sun 15 Jun 14

skeptik says...

Not just in recent years pubs have been closing for years - it may be that the process has speeded up. People have changed - not just about smoking many have a different outlook. I used to like the old Sunday lunch session -with extended hours that merged into the normal day opening hours and lost its special place in the week not been in a pub for four years . Not an at home drinker but I like a bottle of ale with a meal - Lidl do some rather nice ales for a third of pub prices. The chain drinking establishments are NOT pubs but it is understandable why folk would use them. Pubs are just not as attractive as they were - a friend had a free house in the sticks which is now a house the drink driving laws and the cost and timings of public transport or taxis put and end to his trade. A free pub on the outskirts of Winchester some year ago was going to be closed and application for change of use - a petition with hundreds in not thousands of signatures - as the landlord pointed out if those petitioners had bought half a pint of beer a week he would not be considering closing.
Not just in recent years pubs have been closing for years - it may be that the process has speeded up. People have changed - not just about smoking many have a different outlook. I used to like the old Sunday lunch session -with extended hours that merged into the normal day opening hours and lost its special place in the week not been in a pub for four years . Not an at home drinker but I like a bottle of ale with a meal - Lidl do some rather nice ales for a third of pub prices. The chain drinking establishments are NOT pubs but it is understandable why folk would use them. Pubs are just not as attractive as they were - a friend had a free house in the sticks which is now a house the drink driving laws and the cost and timings of public transport or taxis put and end to his trade. A free pub on the outskirts of Winchester some year ago was going to be closed and application for change of use - a petition with hundreds in not thousands of signatures - as the landlord pointed out if those petitioners had bought half a pint of beer a week he would not be considering closing. skeptik
  • Score: 5

9:52am Sun 15 Jun 14

Charlie Bucket says...

mickey01 wrote:
how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin
Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work?
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin[/p][/quote]Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work? Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 11

9:54am Sun 15 Jun 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin?
Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines?
Well, first of all, only the truly narrow-minded and joyless see everything in their lives as a political playground, and secondly, there's absolutely nothing sinister about people preferring to save the pub they favour, and not caring too much about one they don't drink in.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: How come the NuLabour's Junction Mafia is not campaigning to save The Dolphin? Could it be because their own watering hole is on the other side of rail lines?[/p][/quote]Well, first of all, only the truly narrow-minded and joyless see everything in their lives as a political playground, and secondly, there's absolutely nothing sinister about people preferring to save the pub they favour, and not caring too much about one they don't drink in. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 12

10:54am Sun 15 Jun 14

userds5050 says...

skeptik wrote:
Not just in recent years pubs have been closing for years - it may be that the process has speeded up. People have changed - not just about smoking many have a different outlook. I used to like the old Sunday lunch session -with extended hours that merged into the normal day opening hours and lost its special place in the week not been in a pub for four years . Not an at home drinker but I like a bottle of ale with a meal - Lidl do some rather nice ales for a third of pub prices. The chain drinking establishments are NOT pubs but it is understandable why folk would use them. Pubs are just not as attractive as they were - a friend had a free house in the sticks which is now a house the drink driving laws and the cost and timings of public transport or taxis put and end to his trade. A free pub on the outskirts of Winchester some year ago was going to be closed and application for change of use - a petition with hundreds in not thousands of signatures - as the landlord pointed out if those petitioners had bought half a pint of beer a week he would not be considering closing.
"The drink driving laws put an end to his trade."
Most idiotic post I've ever read on here, and that's saying something.
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: Not just in recent years pubs have been closing for years - it may be that the process has speeded up. People have changed - not just about smoking many have a different outlook. I used to like the old Sunday lunch session -with extended hours that merged into the normal day opening hours and lost its special place in the week not been in a pub for four years . Not an at home drinker but I like a bottle of ale with a meal - Lidl do some rather nice ales for a third of pub prices. The chain drinking establishments are NOT pubs but it is understandable why folk would use them. Pubs are just not as attractive as they were - a friend had a free house in the sticks which is now a house the drink driving laws and the cost and timings of public transport or taxis put and end to his trade. A free pub on the outskirts of Winchester some year ago was going to be closed and application for change of use - a petition with hundreds in not thousands of signatures - as the landlord pointed out if those petitioners had bought half a pint of beer a week he would not be considering closing.[/p][/quote]"The drink driving laws put an end to his trade." Most idiotic post I've ever read on here, and that's saying something. userds5050
  • Score: -2

11:20am Sun 15 Jun 14

Chipster says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
Wow, and how did you come to that conclusion? I suppose Olde Mags is at fault for our recent recession, wars in the Middle East and global climate change! Jeeez!
One of the reasons why pubs are closing down is the high rents and excessive, unobtainable barrelage demanded by the likes of Enterprise Inns etc. It seems the mere fact that there still is an economic downturn has passed them by, which is why most/if not all tied houses are struggling. There are some success, but it seems that is mainly because they are free houses and the landlord has a free hand in what he sells and for what price. A classic example is the Guide Dog on Earls Road in the Valley!
Unfortunately I feel the days of the "community pub" are numbered, its just people want something different. For the record I'm a "real ale" drinker and I want to see good, family pubs continue and I believe they will, but alas they will be few and far between all the time that landlords choose to rip their tenants off with sky high rents and mediocre beer!
As for Maggie, grow up and let her rest in peace ffs!
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]Wow, and how did you come to that conclusion? I suppose Olde Mags is at fault for our recent recession, wars in the Middle East and global climate change! Jeeez! One of the reasons why pubs are closing down is the high rents and excessive, unobtainable barrelage demanded by the likes of Enterprise Inns etc. It seems the mere fact that there still is an economic downturn has passed them by, which is why most/if not all tied houses are struggling. There are some success, but it seems that is mainly because they are free houses and the landlord has a free hand in what he sells and for what price. A classic example is the Guide Dog on Earls Road in the Valley! Unfortunately I feel the days of the "community pub" are numbered, its just people want something different. For the record I'm a "real ale" drinker and I want to see good, family pubs continue and I believe they will, but alas they will be few and far between all the time that landlords choose to rip their tenants off with sky high rents and mediocre beer! As for Maggie, grow up and let her rest in peace ffs! Chipster
  • Score: 2

12:35pm Sun 15 Jun 14

elvisimo says...

loosehead wrote:
According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600.
When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge?
maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.
If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge? maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.[/p][/quote]If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity. elvisimo
  • Score: -1

2:09pm Sun 15 Jun 14

skeptik says...

userds5050 says... Well qualified to judge.
userds5050 says... Well qualified to judge. skeptik
  • Score: 0

2:17pm Sun 15 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

Charlie Bucket wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin
Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work?
to be fair if i worked in tesco would i go to another supermarket on my day off
[quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin[/p][/quote]Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work?[/p][/quote]to be fair if i worked in tesco would i go to another supermarket on my day off mickey01
  • Score: 3

2:40pm Sun 15 Jun 14

loosehead says...

elvisimo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600.
When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge?
maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.
If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity.
did you read it all?The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. so add £8,000=£19,600.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge? maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.[/p][/quote]If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity.[/p][/quote]did you read it all?The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. so add £8,000=£19,600. loosehead
  • Score: 4

2:44pm Sun 15 Jun 14

elvisimo says...

loosehead wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600.
When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge?
maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.
If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity.
did you read it all?The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. so add £8,000=£19,600.
No the cash going in is £11600. This is based on the funds required to get the pub up and trading, pay for fixtures and fittings and stock at valuation. Same as any brewery lease. He will pay rent quarterly in advance.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge? maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.[/p][/quote]If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity.[/p][/quote]did you read it all?The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. so add £8,000=£19,600.[/p][/quote]No the cash going in is £11600. This is based on the funds required to get the pub up and trading, pay for fixtures and fittings and stock at valuation. Same as any brewery lease. He will pay rent quarterly in advance. elvisimo
  • Score: 0

4:28pm Sun 15 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

userds5050 wrote:
skeptik wrote:
Not just in recent years pubs have been closing for years - it may be that the process has speeded up. People have changed - not just about smoking many have a different outlook. I used to like the old Sunday lunch session -with extended hours that merged into the normal day opening hours and lost its special place in the week not been in a pub for four years . Not an at home drinker but I like a bottle of ale with a meal - Lidl do some rather nice ales for a third of pub prices. The chain drinking establishments are NOT pubs but it is understandable why folk would use them. Pubs are just not as attractive as they were - a friend had a free house in the sticks which is now a house the drink driving laws and the cost and timings of public transport or taxis put and end to his trade. A free pub on the outskirts of Winchester some year ago was going to be closed and application for change of use - a petition with hundreds in not thousands of signatures - as the landlord pointed out if those petitioners had bought half a pint of beer a week he would not be considering closing.
"The drink driving laws put an end to his trade."
Most idiotic post I've ever read on here, and that's saying something.
idiot !! the drink drive laws have nothing to do with the closing down of pubs
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: Not just in recent years pubs have been closing for years - it may be that the process has speeded up. People have changed - not just about smoking many have a different outlook. I used to like the old Sunday lunch session -with extended hours that merged into the normal day opening hours and lost its special place in the week not been in a pub for four years . Not an at home drinker but I like a bottle of ale with a meal - Lidl do some rather nice ales for a third of pub prices. The chain drinking establishments are NOT pubs but it is understandable why folk would use them. Pubs are just not as attractive as they were - a friend had a free house in the sticks which is now a house the drink driving laws and the cost and timings of public transport or taxis put and end to his trade. A free pub on the outskirts of Winchester some year ago was going to be closed and application for change of use - a petition with hundreds in not thousands of signatures - as the landlord pointed out if those petitioners had bought half a pint of beer a week he would not be considering closing.[/p][/quote]"The drink driving laws put an end to his trade." Most idiotic post I've ever read on here, and that's saying something.[/p][/quote]idiot !! the drink drive laws have nothing to do with the closing down of pubs mickey01
  • Score: -1

5:01pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Charlie Bucket says...

mickey01 wrote:
Charlie Bucket wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin
Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work?
to be fair if i worked in tesco would i go to another supermarket on my day off
So what you're saying is, nobody who has a job, has any need of the services they provide? Taxi drivers never need to get anywhere on their days off? Barmen never go to the pub? Shop workers don't need groceries?

What a truly cretinous comment.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin[/p][/quote]Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work?[/p][/quote]to be fair if i worked in tesco would i go to another supermarket on my day off[/p][/quote]So what you're saying is, nobody who has a job, has any need of the services they provide? Taxi drivers never need to get anywhere on their days off? Barmen never go to the pub? Shop workers don't need groceries? What a truly cretinous comment. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 3

5:25pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Saintly Sam says...

mickey01 wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs
Expensive beer and spirits in pubs did not help either.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs[/p][/quote]Expensive beer and spirits in pubs did not help either. Saintly Sam
  • Score: 7

9:22pm Sun 15 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Saintly Sam wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
BeyondImagination wrote:
Thatcher killed pubs. RIP
cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs
Expensive beer and spirits in pubs did not help either.
A lot of these companies charge the tenants more for the alcohol than they sell it to the supermarkets how's that a level playing field?
[quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: Thatcher killed pubs. RIP[/p][/quote]cheap beer in supermarkets killed pubs[/p][/quote]Expensive beer and spirits in pubs did not help either.[/p][/quote]A lot of these companies charge the tenants more for the alcohol than they sell it to the supermarkets how's that a level playing field? loosehead
  • Score: 3

9:54pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Stubs says...

I heard it's going to be converted to either a Tesco or Sainsburry.
I heard it's going to be converted to either a Tesco or Sainsburry. Stubs
  • Score: -2

10:02pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Huffter says...

elvisimo wrote:
loosehead wrote:
According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600.
When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge?
maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.
If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity.
Correct - a pub is not much of a business opportunity!
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: According to Enterprise Inns’ website, potential landlords would have to pay £8,000-a-year rent under a retail partnership tenancy arrangement. The publican would also have to find ingoing funds of £11,600. When will enterprise Inns wake up to the fact that thriving pubs are shutting because of the ridiculous costs they charge? maybe a percentage of the profits would go to them so leaving the landlord with a decent turnaround for the work they put in instead of hammering bthem before they even sell a pint.[/p][/quote]If you can't make enough to pay 8k rent then there can't be much of a business opportunity.[/p][/quote]Correct - a pub is not much of a business opportunity! Huffter
  • Score: 3

10:43pm Sun 15 Jun 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Stubs wrote:
I heard it's going to be converted to either a Tesco or Sainsburry.
Not very likely tucked away on a dead end road. Not much of a catchment area with Portswood Shopping Centre 5 minutes away, as major opposition and no through traffic in Osborne Road.
[quote][p][bold]Stubs[/bold] wrote: I heard it's going to be converted to either a Tesco or Sainsburry.[/p][/quote]Not very likely tucked away on a dead end road. Not much of a catchment area with Portswood Shopping Centre 5 minutes away, as major opposition and no through traffic in Osborne Road. 100%HANTSBOY
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6:27am Mon 16 Jun 14

skeptik says...

Drink driving laws and pubs - well I will try and explain what happened even to a simpleton like Mickey - law abiding people who used to go out to village pubs stopped because they decided that any drink was not good when driving - Mickey before calling people idiots -which granted you are well qualified, try looking at the records - many a village pub lost the lunch trade. Good or bad it remains a fact - well done for mastering the keyboard.
Drink driving laws and pubs - well I will try and explain what happened even to a simpleton like Mickey - law abiding people who used to go out to village pubs stopped because they decided that any drink was not good when driving - Mickey before calling people idiots -which granted you are well qualified, try looking at the records - many a village pub lost the lunch trade. Good or bad it remains a fact - well done for mastering the keyboard. skeptik
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6:30am Mon 16 Jun 14

skeptik says...

The British Beer and Pub Association (BBPA) estimates that around 4,000 village pubs have disappeared since 1980 - the result of increasingly tough drink-driving laws, cheap supermarket beer, rising costs and alcohol duty, and the smoking ban.
The British Beer and Pub Association (BBPA) estimates that around 4,000 village pubs have disappeared since 1980 - the result of increasingly tough drink-driving laws, cheap supermarket beer, rising costs and alcohol duty, and the smoking ban. skeptik
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7:20am Mon 16 Jun 14

Huey says...

mickey01 wrote:
Charlie Bucket wrote:
mickey01 wrote:
how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin
Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work?
to be fair if i worked in tesco would i go to another supermarket on my day off
Ahh but then you wouldn't get your staff discount on your shopping
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie Bucket[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: how bad was the junction if the landlady regularly visited the dolphin[/p][/quote]Well to be fair, most publicans prefer to get away from their own pub on their day off. Who wants to spend their leisure time at their place of work?[/p][/quote]to be fair if i worked in tesco would i go to another supermarket on my day off[/p][/quote]Ahh but then you wouldn't get your staff discount on your shopping Huey
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3:36pm Mon 16 Jun 14

ryan_gazzan@hotmail.com says...

If you look at the webiste for The Morning Advertiser - pubs sort of daily paper - you will be amazed, maybe, at the number of Hamshire pubs up for sale.
If you look at the webiste for The Morning Advertiser - pubs sort of daily paper - you will be amazed, maybe, at the number of Hamshire pubs up for sale. ryan_gazzan@hotmail.com
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5:53pm Mon 16 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

all padded out with methanol these days ,avoid.
all padded out with methanol these days ,avoid. SNUGGLES 78
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